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bigbulls 05-31-2008 07:20 AM

RE: RECOIL ?
 
12.5foot pounds for the 7mm-08 vs. about 19 for the 30-06 is 65%. could be more could be less. I was a touch high but was just guestimating in my head. [8D]

MichaelT. 05-31-2008 07:40 AM

RE: RECOIL ?
 
Don't sweat it brother, none of us are THAT perfect .... though some might like to think it.:D

Your numbers were close enough in my book. Heaven forbid anyone is ever .1 ft / lb, or so, off on something. And we should all give up if we are 1 or 2 % off in our guesstimate.

God Bless

MET

bobfm10350 05-31-2008 08:07 AM

RE: RECOIL ?
 
Im 14 years old and i can shoot a 30-06 w/muzzle break with ease.

Mysavage has a muzzle break that you can turn on and off if you decide you dont like it.
The muzzle breakcame with the gun and i purchasedthe gunfor $400

8mm/06 05-31-2008 08:15 AM

RE: RECOIL ?
 
I have Savage 110 in 30/06 and shoot 165 gr's out of it. I also have a Steyr Mannlicher 1903 in 7 X 57, and i shoot 140 grain handloads out of it. The loads I cook for it are moderate velocity, so the comparison to the factory 30/06 and my moderate speed handloaded 7 X 57 will be decent.
I will tell you that the difference is noticable enough that a session at the range with the lighter recoiling Steyr is very much appreciated. I can handle either nicely as they fit me well, but the 7 X 57 is a pleasure to shoot. I know that's not the same as the 7mm/08, but somewhat in the ballpark.

lonewolf5348 05-31-2008 12:26 PM

RE: RECOIL ?
 
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/lonewolf5347/30-06target001.jpg
the 30-06 is already on the low end of FPS the above is IMR 4350 50.0 grains 2300 FPS
My other load that shoot as good as the above is IMR 3031 44.5 I yet to shoot the centerfire rifle but i did get out and try my 38-55 my load is 262 grain cast and 28.0 grains of IMR 3031 recoil is this cal. is mild fps around 1450
I still won't handle a centerfire rifle for a few more months :The surgery did removing 2 disk from my neck C5 threw C7 I have to say about 60 percent better then what it use to be.I find the stiffness more of a problem then the push of the rifle.I am going to try my 50 cal M/L before I get back into rifle shooting .
I would jump on the 7x57 mauser round again but H@R stop making that cal. some time back in the barrel add on program.I think I will send my action out on monday and have them fit the 7MM-08 to the action

MichaelT. 05-31-2008 04:29 PM

RE: RECOIL ?
 
Same surgery I had .... C5 - C7.

MET


HEAD0001 05-31-2008 05:17 PM

RE: RECOIL ?
 
Recoil can be attributed to several factors. Cartridge selection is just one of the variables. For some one to say that a 30-06 has a certain percentage of felt recoil, as compared to a 7-08, without taking into account all the felt recoil factors is just flat out wrong to do.

Factors that effect felt recoil:
1. Cartridge selection
2. Rifle weight
3. Stock design
4. Recoil reducers
5.Porting
6. Even the shooting technique of the shooter himself.

For some one to say that a 140 grain 7-08 does not recoil is erroneous. Or flat out wrong. If all things are equal then a 140 will recoil less than a 165 in a 30-06, but rarely are all things equal.

You can reduce felt recoil considerably by going to a thumb hole stock. I shoot 165 grain bullets in my 30-06 with a well designed thumb hole stocked Encore. Recoil is very manageable.

There are very many ways to reduce recoil and still shoot a 30-06. If you truly need to do away with recoil then you need to drop down to a 223 Remington. Even a 22-250 has noticably more recoil than the 223. Tom.

bigbulls 05-31-2008 06:27 PM

RE: RECOIL ?
 

For some one to say that a 30-06 has a certain percentage of felt recoil, as compared to a 7-08, without taking into account all the felt recoil factors is just flat out wrong to do.
Since I am the only one that listed a percentage of recoilI will assume you are talking about my post. I will also assume that you didn't read the entire post. :eek:And didn't get to the end of that sentence or the next.


..........assuming they are fired out of the same rifle.... IE: both shot out of a Remington 700 CDL.

Doe Dumper 05-31-2008 09:30 PM

RE: RECOIL ?
 
To echo bigbulls sentiments I hunted for several years with a 30-06 using 180 and 165's. I now flip back and forth between a 7-08, 270 win, and 300 Sav. The 7-08 has significantly LESS recoil than the 06 and noticeably less than the 270 and just a touch lessthan the 300 Sav. You'd never hear any complaints on the 7-08 from me. Its an outstanding deer round...at least for me.

ipscshooter 05-31-2008 10:53 PM

RE: RECOIL ?
 

ORIGINAL: bigbulls

12.5foot pounds for the 7mm-08 vs. about 19 for the 30-06 is 65%. could be more could be less. I was a touch high but was just guestimating in my head. [8D]
I guess I was going at the math from the wrong side of the equation. Looking at the numbers, I figured the 7mm-08 had roughly 2/3 the recoil of the .30-06, so the 06 was about 1/3 more... I understand the math, it just seems strange to say that the .30-06 has 65% more recoil than the 7mm-08, but the 7mm-08 has 35% less recoil than the .30-06...

Michael... Going through all that sarcasm regarding my post, followed by "God bless" to bigbulls seems just a tad incongruous...


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