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RE: RECOIL ?
12.5foot pounds for the 7mm-08 vs. about 19 for the 30-06 is 65%. could be more could be less. I was a touch high but was just guestimating in my head. [8D]
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Don't sweat it brother, none of us are THAT perfect .... though some might like to think it.:D
Your numbers were close enough in my book. Heaven forbid anyone is ever .1 ft / lb, or so, off on something. And we should all give up if we are 1 or 2 % off in our guesstimate. God Bless MET |
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Im 14 years old and i can shoot a 30-06 w/muzzle break with ease.
Mysavage has a muzzle break that you can turn on and off if you decide you dont like it. The muzzle breakcame with the gun and i purchasedthe gunfor $400 |
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I have Savage 110 in 30/06 and shoot 165 gr's out of it. I also have a Steyr Mannlicher 1903 in 7 X 57, and i shoot 140 grain handloads out of it. The loads I cook for it are moderate velocity, so the comparison to the factory 30/06 and my moderate speed handloaded 7 X 57 will be decent.
I will tell you that the difference is noticable enough that a session at the range with the lighter recoiling Steyr is very much appreciated. I can handle either nicely as they fit me well, but the 7 X 57 is a pleasure to shoot. I know that's not the same as the 7mm/08, but somewhat in the ballpark. |
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http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/lonewolf5347/30-06target001.jpg
the 30-06 is already on the low end of FPS the above is IMR 4350 50.0 grains 2300 FPS My other load that shoot as good as the above is IMR 3031 44.5 I yet to shoot the centerfire rifle but i did get out and try my 38-55 my load is 262 grain cast and 28.0 grains of IMR 3031 recoil is this cal. is mild fps around 1450 I still won't handle a centerfire rifle for a few more months :The surgery did removing 2 disk from my neck C5 threw C7 I have to say about 60 percent better then what it use to be.I find the stiffness more of a problem then the push of the rifle.I am going to try my 50 cal M/L before I get back into rifle shooting . I would jump on the 7x57 mauser round again but H@R stop making that cal. some time back in the barrel add on program.I think I will send my action out on monday and have them fit the 7MM-08 to the action |
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Same surgery I had .... C5 - C7.
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Recoil can be attributed to several factors. Cartridge selection is just one of the variables. For some one to say that a 30-06 has a certain percentage of felt recoil, as compared to a 7-08, without taking into account all the felt recoil factors is just flat out wrong to do.
Factors that effect felt recoil: 1. Cartridge selection 2. Rifle weight 3. Stock design 4. Recoil reducers 5.Porting 6. Even the shooting technique of the shooter himself. For some one to say that a 140 grain 7-08 does not recoil is erroneous. Or flat out wrong. If all things are equal then a 140 will recoil less than a 165 in a 30-06, but rarely are all things equal. You can reduce felt recoil considerably by going to a thumb hole stock. I shoot 165 grain bullets in my 30-06 with a well designed thumb hole stocked Encore. Recoil is very manageable. There are very many ways to reduce recoil and still shoot a 30-06. If you truly need to do away with recoil then you need to drop down to a 223 Remington. Even a 22-250 has noticably more recoil than the 223. Tom. |
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For some one to say that a 30-06 has a certain percentage of felt recoil, as compared to a 7-08, without taking into account all the felt recoil factors is just flat out wrong to do. ..........assuming they are fired out of the same rifle.... IE: both shot out of a Remington 700 CDL. |
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To echo bigbulls sentiments I hunted for several years with a 30-06 using 180 and 165's. I now flip back and forth between a 7-08, 270 win, and 300 Sav. The 7-08 has significantly LESS recoil than the 06 and noticeably less than the 270 and just a touch lessthan the 300 Sav. You'd never hear any complaints on the 7-08 from me. Its an outstanding deer round...at least for me.
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ORIGINAL: bigbulls 12.5foot pounds for the 7mm-08 vs. about 19 for the 30-06 is 65%. could be more could be less. I was a touch high but was just guestimating in my head. [8D] Michael... Going through all that sarcasm regarding my post, followed by "God bless" to bigbulls seems just a tad incongruous... |
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