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Old 05-07-2008 | 05:43 AM
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But has any of yous guys used a see-through system?
I don't recommend see-thru mounts. The ones I have had experience with (used to work in a gun shop-I know this doesn't prove anything, but I saw alot of scopes mounted in such contraptions)had a couple of serious disadvantages:

1. Put the scope up too high for optimum use of a scope vs the combof the stock.
2. Were relatively weak-easy to knock out of zero when hunting. (Except for perhaps some of the German ones, which are build like a bank vault, not made of thin aluminum!!)

In the U.S., we regard a scope, when one is on the gun, as the primary sighting system. When mounted and used correctly, a scope is the fastest and most accurate form of rifle sight. IF you are encountering problems usinga scope at short range, you need to practice acquiring short-range targets with it.

A scope should be mounted so that you can close your eyes, mount the rifle to your shoulder, and be looking at the full field of view of your scopewhen you open your eyes.Then when you start practicing on short-range or moving targets, KEEP BOTH EYES OPEN UNTIL YOU PICK UP THE TARGET. This will keep you from "hunting around" with the scope trying to find the target!

With a properly mounted (low!!) scope, and keeping both eyes open, I have no trouble easily acquiring targets as small and mobile as a goldfinchin wooded terrain with a 6X scope at rangesfrom 25 to 100 yards.I have practiced this skill for many years.As you may have noticed, I just don't like, trust, or recommend "see-thru" mounts to a serious hunter!! But to begin with, you might find 2.5X or 4X a better magnification to use for practicing. Many people insist on using scopes at a magnification setting much higher than necessary for good shooting!
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Old 05-08-2008 | 05:00 PM
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This is a matter of opinion. I have used see through rings and mounts with pretty good success. Some seem to have trouble with them. There is only one way to find out. Give it a try.
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Old 05-08-2008 | 07:57 PM
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see-through rings are an eyesore and a headache on a lever action, they are an abomination on a bolt action.
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Old 05-13-2008 | 10:15 AM
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I personally wouldn't have "See Thru" on any rifle I own.They raise the scope to high plus they are made of Aluminum Extrusion. The slightest bump will knock them out of whack.I had a gunsmith buddy back home. He had a wall full of them hanging upfrom customers guns he took them off of.It might be different if they were made of steel but I have never seen any other then the Aluminum extrusion ones. Years ago they made a "Swing Over" set up.I can't remember who was making them or actually what they were called.The rings were attached to a base and basically ithad a swing joint that you would roll the scope overto the side.That let you use the the iron sights.I'm sure some of the old timers would remember these. I haven't seen them in several years. Those were pretty decent as long as you made surethe rings were all the way down,snapped on the base before taking your shot.










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Old 05-13-2008 | 08:32 PM
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Aside from turning your "friend" into an "ugly Betty".....

You might consider that you have too much glass if you see a need for see-thru sights at ranges below 100 yards? You didn't mention which scope and which caliber....
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Old 05-13-2008 | 09:20 PM
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ears ago they made a "Swing Over" set up .I can't remember who was making them or actually what they were called. The rings were attached to a base and basically it had a swing joint that you would roll the scope over to the side.That let you use the the iron sights.I'm sure some of the old timers would remember these. I haven't seen them in several years.
Weaver made a set of them like that. I have an old set of them in my junk drawer that I removed from one of my rifles. They are very solid, but I found them pointless because the iron sights that are put on most sporting rifles pretty much suck.
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Old 05-14-2008 | 02:15 AM
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My opinion is to go with something like a millet 1-4x24 designated marksman scope. http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Millet-1-4X24-DESIGNATED-MARKSMAN-Tactical-SCOPE-p/millett%20dms%201-4.htm

You can dial it down to 1x and have no magnification for close shots. It'll be just like shooting a red dot. Then you have up to 4x for the longer shots. Millet claims you can use different parts of the reticle for range estimation up to 500 yards. Much better than using see-through mounts.
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