Hey handgun guys . . . Glock 30?
#1
I've done my homework. I've narrowed my choices in a concealable handgun to the Glock 30 OD, or the Springfield ArmoryXD 9611 both in .45ACP.
The Glock is $50.00 more than the XD. And I am leaning towards paying the extra for the Glock.
BUT . . . is there anything about it that would make me change my mind and go with the XD?
The only bad thing I can find is a guy that got rid of his because his little finger got pinched by the gap at the grip/magazine every time he fired it.
Anything else?
The Glock is $50.00 more than the XD. And I am leaning towards paying the extra for the Glock.
BUT . . . is there anything about it that would make me change my mind and go with the XD?
The only bad thing I can find is a guy that got rid of his because his little finger got pinched by the gap at the grip/magazine every time he fired it.
Anything else?
#2
The Glock 30 is an excellent pistol and oneyou will be very pleased with. I personally favor Glocks over the XD's mainly due to the simple design of the Glock. My only question is: have you actually handled the Glock 30 yet? Reason I ask issome find the grip of the Glock 30 to be a litle big for their hands. You should probably handle the XD, Glock 30, and the new Glock 30SF side by side and go from there, if you have not done so yet.
#3
The gun dealer has all three and yes, I was planning in handling all of them.
I got my wife an XD in .4S&W for her birthday last year so I am familiar with the feel of that grip.
I have big hands and like the feel of a large grip. Seems to offer more control for the follow up shot.
I just have only known Glock by reputation only and was looking for some imput. Thanks.
I mean, for $50.00 more bucks I get a gun made in Austria, vs one made in Brazil/US (Il). More resail value probly as well.
I got my wife an XD in .4S&W for her birthday last year so I am familiar with the feel of that grip.
I have big hands and like the feel of a large grip. Seems to offer more control for the follow up shot.
I just have only known Glock by reputation only and was looking for some imput. Thanks.
I mean, for $50.00 more bucks I get a gun made in Austria, vs one made in Brazil/US (Il). More resail value probly as well.
#4
I had a buddy on the police force let me go shoot his Glock .40, and while the gun itself was extremely nice I'll throw out a couple things to think about. They may not be any big deal to you, but in researching the issue on the 'net, I've seen others complain about the issue as well.
Every casing ejected right back into my face, or at least towards it. About every third piece of brass would actually hit me somewhere on my head.
The other thing was that the sights aren't adjustable -- at least not without replacing the whole rear ramp. I qualified expert with every weapon I trained with in MP school, and did a LOT of hunting growing up. I want my bullets to hit where I aim -- PERIOD. At approximately 15 yards, the POI was off by about four inches; granted, it would "work", but if I want to shoot someone's eyeball out, dangit-- I want to hit their pupil.
I've since expanded my search in handguns with adjustable sights on the pistol so that I can fine-tune the POI.
Every casing ejected right back into my face, or at least towards it. About every third piece of brass would actually hit me somewhere on my head.
The other thing was that the sights aren't adjustable -- at least not without replacing the whole rear ramp. I qualified expert with every weapon I trained with in MP school, and did a LOT of hunting growing up. I want my bullets to hit where I aim -- PERIOD. At approximately 15 yards, the POI was off by about four inches; granted, it would "work", but if I want to shoot someone's eyeball out, dangit-- I want to hit their pupil.

I've since expanded my search in handguns with adjustable sights on the pistol so that I can fine-tune the POI.
#6
I bought a G-30 a couple months ago. I haven't had a chance to fire it yet. I believe if I were doing it again I would go with the G-36 or the new slim frame(short frame).The grip on the 30 is on the wide side and when the double stack magazine is fully loaded it's quite heavy to becarrying concealed for a long period of time.I've carried it a few times even though I haven't fired it,just to get the feel of it.There's quite a difference carrying that G-30 compared to my G-27.I have big hands so the wider frame doesn't bother me.The weightmakes the difference. If you compare the size of the 30 to the 27 there's not more then a nickels difference in size.
Let me give youguys a tip if you have a Glock and want Nights sights.I prefer Trijicon N.S.I've had the Trijicon's on my G-27 for years, I finally had them replaced after 12 plus years of service out of them.They were still very useable but wasn't quite as bright as they once were.I got a price from Trijicon for the G-30.The sights were 99.00,plus they wanted 30.00 to install them.This pricedid include thereturn shipping.Before shipping the slide I called Glock. Glock carries Trijicon and Glock NS's. I think they may carry other brands. For the same Trijicon sights Glock wanted 72.00w/ free installation. It also included the return shipping.Glock did require my state's sale tax which Ishould havequestioned since I don't live in Georgia.All together it was right at 50.00 cheaper for the identical Trijicon sights using Glock instead of Trijicon.
Let me give youguys a tip if you have a Glock and want Nights sights.I prefer Trijicon N.S.I've had the Trijicon's on my G-27 for years, I finally had them replaced after 12 plus years of service out of them.They were still very useable but wasn't quite as bright as they once were.I got a price from Trijicon for the G-30.The sights were 99.00,plus they wanted 30.00 to install them.This pricedid include thereturn shipping.Before shipping the slide I called Glock. Glock carries Trijicon and Glock NS's. I think they may carry other brands. For the same Trijicon sights Glock wanted 72.00w/ free installation. It also included the return shipping.Glock did require my state's sale tax which Ishould havequestioned since I don't live in Georgia.All together it was right at 50.00 cheaper for the identical Trijicon sights using Glock instead of Trijicon.
#7
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO
I had a buddy on the police force let me go shoot his Glock .40, and while the gun itself was extremely nice I'll throw out a couple things to think about. They may not be any big deal to you, but in researching the issue on the 'net, I've seen others complain about the issue as well.
Every casing ejected right back into my face, or at least towards it. About every third piece of brass would actually hit me somewhere on my head.
The other thing was that the sights aren't adjustable -- at least not without replacing the whole rear ramp. I qualified expert with every weapon I trained with in MP school, and did a LOT of hunting growing up. I want my bullets to hit where I aim -- PERIOD. At approximately 15 yards, the POI was off by about four inches; granted, it would "work", but if I want to shoot someone's eyeball out, dangit-- I want to hit their pupil.
I've since expanded my search in handguns with adjustable sights on the pistol so that I can fine-tune the POI.
I had a buddy on the police force let me go shoot his Glock .40, and while the gun itself was extremely nice I'll throw out a couple things to think about. They may not be any big deal to you, but in researching the issue on the 'net, I've seen others complain about the issue as well.
Every casing ejected right back into my face, or at least towards it. About every third piece of brass would actually hit me somewhere on my head.
The other thing was that the sights aren't adjustable -- at least not without replacing the whole rear ramp. I qualified expert with every weapon I trained with in MP school, and did a LOT of hunting growing up. I want my bullets to hit where I aim -- PERIOD. At approximately 15 yards, the POI was off by about four inches; granted, it would "work", but if I want to shoot someone's eyeball out, dangit-- I want to hit their pupil.

I've since expanded my search in handguns with adjustable sights on the pistol so that I can fine-tune the POI.
Please do not take this as being disrespectful as I am sure you have lots of experience, but the problems you describe aremorelikely to beshooter issues than firearm issues. The case ejection problem is usually the result of improper grip and or stance imperfections. The same can also be said for the accuracy problems. I can only recall one pistol that would not hit POA @ 15 yards in the last 12 years. I don't remember the brand but it had the wrong rear sight installed....I want to say it was a Sig 229. I am also a little weary of adjustable sights on a CCW. When I first started shooting my Glock 27, I was certain it was grouping low and left(about 4 inches too). Then my department range instructor took the firearm and shot the bullseye out of a target.
Edited to add: It seemsthe problems you experiencedcome from people who are accustomed to shootinghandguns other than Glocks.I was used to shooting Sigs and Berettas andit took me about 500 rounds to getused to the grip and trigger. For people who have experience with other handguns, many times find the Glock grip angle much different than what they are used to.




