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You can find your manufacturer's action torque specs in your owners manual or by emailing/calling tech support. If a custom gun your gunsmith should give you that info. Their is no general rules or guidleinesto torque specs in regards to firearms, they are all different and always changing. Basically it comes down to repeatability for the gun nut toreturn the action to the same mating each time.Other benefits include POI, less possibility of damage to the stock or fastner(action screw).

Inch lb torque drivers are the best way to do this.

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I called Remington, Sako, Browning, talked to gunsmith, etc.

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Thanks guys. I’ll do some investigating...:)

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Its a big debate. But I generally will torque my front action screw on Remington, Sako's and brownings to 45 in/lbs. The back I will set snug. You will hear some say 35 in/lbs, and some as high at 55in/lbs.

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I’ll see what they say but will take note on what you wrote down. Thanks BC...:D

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I like mine. I got a really good deal on it, so that helps. Accuracy is acceptable. Not great, but 2" at 100yds makes it well within the vitals of anything I hunt with it. Has anyone done the trigger mods? Supposed to really help the accuracy.

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All mine needed was a little brownells moly and it broke clean at 2 3/4#s. At least thats all the gunsmith said he did to it. It sure didn't help the accuracy any.

Big I suspect you are on to something with the screws and all with the Encore... but hell I don't feel like spending more money on that damn thing. I think its about to become a $600 single shot turkey gun....:eek: but oh well screw it the girlfriend will be happy with it.

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You guys aware some custom after market barrels would be a better choice than buying from TC? Cheaper too!

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Where are they cheaper? I know friend with bullberry's that shoot like dimes at 200 yards, but man they paid more for them than a decent rifle.

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I'll admit outright that a custom barrel with an MOA guarentee is going to be better than what you'll get from TC, but NEVER cheaper.

And as it is, the 7-08 that is the problem for me came as a complete set up, NIB from TC.

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Definitely not CHEAPER........in some cases twice as much.

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Well...maybe you're right...but $75-$100 more is worth it.

Coyoteguns. Possibly back by the end of March.
Bergara. But I don't know if they are any good. Just cheaper.
I guess anything else would have to be bought. Then sent out for lug/chamber work. If you're not in a rush it's possible to get a better barrel cheaper or for not too much more.

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I bought a .50 Cal ML originally at a price thatwould be under wholesale in most shops and couldn't pass it up.Down the roadbought a factory .22-250 barrel to be used for coyotes. I also was dissappointed in the accuracy department. Did a little research on possible solutions and ran across Stratton Custom T/C Accessories. They make a forend hanger bar that attaches to the barrel. Some modification to the forearm is mandatorybut easily done (if I can do it anyone can).

I thought It seemed a little gimicky butthe price was right so I triedit. I was pleasantly surprised howwell it worked. I did the same thing on a factory .204 barrel; again it worked like a charm. Both barrelsnow shoot less than an inch at 100 yards as long as the shooter doestheir part. I never have touched the hinge pin. Mine isn't sloppy, but I wouldn't consider it overly tight either.

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I agree 100%.

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I have two buddies that do the same barrel swapping as your talking about, without any problems.
What do you think recoil does to your gun. Do you think it might be comparable to tapping it with a hammer?

I have another buddy that have had two Winchester model70 rifles that couldn't hold a 5 inch group @ 100 hundred yards.
Sometimes you get a bad gun??

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I was flipping thru the channels the other night and saw a part of one of the millions of T/C sponsored shows on the Outdoor Channel. They were talking to a factory rep and he was saying how they only had one warranty man in the factory and were comparing him to the Maytag man...I thought that was pretty humorous. They implied that no one ever sent them back and the customer satisfaction rating was near 100%...

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I just spent the better part of an hour looking at a Knight KP1 with a guy from the Knight Factory. All i can say is someone put some serious thought into that gun. Had I not just purchased a Disc Extreme I would have bought that gun with 2 barrels ..50 cal and a 30-06. If They spend 1/2 what TC does on TV ads and paying off Gun Hoes they will smother that sad excuse of a gun known as an Encore.

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Can't argue that. I have had a fine Encore ML for six yrs and have been more pleased with it than others before. However, for six yrs I have been perusing catalogs and considering other bbls but every time I add up the cost of bbl+foreend I just add a few dollars and buy a complete rifle.

Same can be said for AR uppers.

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Yep, another freakin thing that sucked me in.

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LOL BC I think an AR will be my next purchase. Any advice?

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I agree. I looked at the KP1 and was very impressed when compared to the Encore.