Should Felons own Firearms?
01-21-2008 | 04:25 AM
#31
Typical Buck
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RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
No way should a "felon" own a firearm. Plus I do not agree with reduced sentences for "good behavior" if they would have practiced good behavior in the first place they would not have gotten in trouble. And they are always "sorry" after they get caught. Do the crime , do the time, period.
01-21-2008 | 06:29 AM
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RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
ORIGINAL: Tuco
No way should a "felon" own a firearm. Plus I do not agree with reduced sentences for "good behavior" if they would have practiced good behavior in the first place they would not have gotten in trouble. And they are always "sorry" after they get caught. Do the crime , do the time, period.
No way should a "felon" own a firearm. Plus I do not agree with reduced sentences for "good behavior" if they would have practiced good behavior in the first place they would not have gotten in trouble. And they are always "sorry" after they get caught. Do the crime , do the time, period.
01-21-2008 | 06:58 AM
#33
Typical Buck
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RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
There are lawsand legisation on the books that adress people with a record wanting thier right to bear arms back. It should all be on a case by case basis and even then only after time has been served and time after release has showed themselves an upstanding citizen.
There are non violent felonies that the felons should never see thier right restored. Look at Wall Street junk bond and insider traders during the 80's and 90's that costs 1000's of people thier jobs. White collar crime that was hardly victimless. People with more than 1 DWI's or DWU's. There are really no "victimless" felonies.
There are non violent felonies that the felons should never see thier right restored. Look at Wall Street junk bond and insider traders during the 80's and 90's that costs 1000's of people thier jobs. White collar crime that was hardly victimless. People with more than 1 DWI's or DWU's. There are really no "victimless" felonies.
01-21-2008 | 09:26 AM
#35
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
It can happen here in Indiana I think on a case by case basis
it think if it is not violent they did there time and for at least 5 years shows they have changed I.E having a job even if it is a MC Donald’s job not getting even so much as a traffic ticket
Then they should be able to own a rifle or shotgun
a handgun i think there should be alot of looking into the case before someone is handed a handgun
it think if it is not violent they did there time and for at least 5 years shows they have changed I.E having a job even if it is a MC Donald’s job not getting even so much as a traffic ticket
Then they should be able to own a rifle or shotgun
a handgun i think there should be alot of looking into the case before someone is handed a handgun
01-21-2008 | 09:29 AM
#36
Giant Nontypical
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From: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
There are felons, and there are felons. They are often quite different, and the one type most law-enforcement personnel come to grips with on a daily basis are generally NOT the ones that should be considered eligible to have their gun ownership rights restored. Many of those who perhaps should are ones whose crimes are of the white-collar kind (I don't mean drug dealers or heavy users!). Daily contact with scumbag repeat offenders usually warps a person's perception of human nature, often to the point where everyone becomes a suspect. I've seen this happen!
Basically, I see no reason why a Superior Court judge cannot exercise sufficient intelligent discretion to be empowered to decide, on a case-by-case basis, if a convicted person should or should not be permitted to get this right back. There should be NOTHING automatic about it. But let's face it. If a freed convicted felon plans to use a firearm for future criminal activity, it just is not reasonable to believe that the person is going to ask a court for permission to own a gun-they will just steal one, and do it anyway! In case people forget, MOST career criminals steal their firearms,or buy them on the black market!
"What many people do realize is that it isnt "easy to get a felony" as has been previously been implied. I dont have one, my friends dont have one, 95% of the poeple I know dont have one, including my family schoolmates, co workers at all of my jobs, even most of you guys probably dont "have one" [8D]. "
This may be correct. But there are lawmakers in MANY jurisdictions who are working diligently to make offenders out of LAW ABIDING people who own guns!
BTW, the right to vote is one of the ones the convicted person loses, as well as the right to seek and hold public office, and to be licensed in certain profesion, such as an M.D. or a nurse, etc..
Basically, I see no reason why a Superior Court judge cannot exercise sufficient intelligent discretion to be empowered to decide, on a case-by-case basis, if a convicted person should or should not be permitted to get this right back. There should be NOTHING automatic about it. But let's face it. If a freed convicted felon plans to use a firearm for future criminal activity, it just is not reasonable to believe that the person is going to ask a court for permission to own a gun-they will just steal one, and do it anyway! In case people forget, MOST career criminals steal their firearms,or buy them on the black market!
"What many people do realize is that it isnt "easy to get a felony" as has been previously been implied. I dont have one, my friends dont have one, 95% of the poeple I know dont have one, including my family schoolmates, co workers at all of my jobs, even most of you guys probably dont "have one" [8D]. "
This may be correct. But there are lawmakers in MANY jurisdictions who are working diligently to make offenders out of LAW ABIDING people who own guns!
BTW, the right to vote is one of the ones the convicted person loses, as well as the right to seek and hold public office, and to be licensed in certain profesion, such as an M.D. or a nurse, etc..
01-21-2008 | 09:31 AM
#37
Fork Horn
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RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
ORIGINAL: 8mm/06
I would support it, in a case-by-case situation, with the stipulation that some board of review must ponder and decide.
I would support it, in a case-by-case situation, with the stipulation that some board of review must ponder and decide.
01-21-2008 | 09:39 AM
#38
Giant Nontypical
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From: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
ORIGINAL: CZ2506
The only problem is, who sits on the Board of Review? Me? You? Encorepete? State Police? Local Cop? Could you sit on the board if you are a felon?
ORIGINAL: 8mm/06
I would support it, in a case-by-case situation, with the stipulation that some board of review must ponder and decide.
I would support it, in a case-by-case situation, with the stipulation that some board of review must ponder and decide.
01-21-2008 | 10:40 AM
#39
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
i ant got one got a misdemeanor assault charge from when i was 16 for self defense [:@]but it went away when i turned 18 so nothing on my record
i also do think any drug charge and the real felons should never get there rights back but they carry guns anyway
i knew a guy in KY who had a felon charge 10 years ago
well he was looking at a guys gun and got his prints on it
364 days later he get a knock. One day before the statute was up he got arrested . due to shortly after looking at the gun the owner got arrested with it and they found his prints.
When i moved back up here the guy was looking at 10 years and i mean you serve the 10 years in prison for it
No it is not easy to get a felony charge
i also do think any drug charge and the real felons should never get there rights back but they carry guns anyway
i knew a guy in KY who had a felon charge 10 years ago
well he was looking at a guys gun and got his prints on it
364 days later he get a knock. One day before the statute was up he got arrested . due to shortly after looking at the gun the owner got arrested with it and they found his prints.
When i moved back up here the guy was looking at 10 years and i mean you serve the 10 years in prison for it
No it is not easy to get a felony charge
ORIGINAL: eldeguello
There are felons, and there are felons. They are often quite different, and the one type most law-enforcement personnel come to grips with on a daily basis are generally NOT the ones that should be considered eligible to have their gun ownership rights restored. Many of those who perhaps should are ones whose crimes are of the white-collar kind (I don't mean drug dealers or heavy users!). Daily contact with scumbag repeat offenders usually warps a person's perception of human nature, often to the point where everyone becomes a suspect. I've seen this happen!
Basically, I see no reason why a Superior Court judge cannot exercise sufficient intelligent discretion to be empowered to decide, on a case-by-case basis, if a convicted person should or should not be permitted to get this right back. There should be NOTHING automatic about it. But let's face it. If a freed convicted felon plans to use a firearm for future criminal activity, it just is not reasonable to believe that the person is going to ask a court for permission to own a gun-they will just steal one, and do it anyway! In case people forget, MOST career criminals steal their firearms,or buy them on the black market!
"What many people do realize is that it isnt "easy to get a felony" as has been previously been implied. I dont have one, my friends dont have one, 95% of the poeple I know dont have one, including my family schoolmates, co workers at all of my jobs, even most of you guys probably dont "have one" [8D]. "
This may be correct. But there are lawmakers in MANY jurisdictions who are working diligently to make offenders out of LAW ABIDING people who own guns!
BTW, the right to vote is one of the ones the convicted person loses, as well as the right to seek and hold public office, and to be licensed in certain profesion, such as an M.D. or a nurse, etc..
There are felons, and there are felons. They are often quite different, and the one type most law-enforcement personnel come to grips with on a daily basis are generally NOT the ones that should be considered eligible to have their gun ownership rights restored. Many of those who perhaps should are ones whose crimes are of the white-collar kind (I don't mean drug dealers or heavy users!). Daily contact with scumbag repeat offenders usually warps a person's perception of human nature, often to the point where everyone becomes a suspect. I've seen this happen!
Basically, I see no reason why a Superior Court judge cannot exercise sufficient intelligent discretion to be empowered to decide, on a case-by-case basis, if a convicted person should or should not be permitted to get this right back. There should be NOTHING automatic about it. But let's face it. If a freed convicted felon plans to use a firearm for future criminal activity, it just is not reasonable to believe that the person is going to ask a court for permission to own a gun-they will just steal one, and do it anyway! In case people forget, MOST career criminals steal their firearms,or buy them on the black market!
"What many people do realize is that it isnt "easy to get a felony" as has been previously been implied. I dont have one, my friends dont have one, 95% of the poeple I know dont have one, including my family schoolmates, co workers at all of my jobs, even most of you guys probably dont "have one" [8D]. "
This may be correct. But there are lawmakers in MANY jurisdictions who are working diligently to make offenders out of LAW ABIDING people who own guns!
BTW, the right to vote is one of the ones the convicted person loses, as well as the right to seek and hold public office, and to be licensed in certain profesion, such as an M.D. or a nurse, etc..
01-21-2008 | 12:01 PM
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Fork Horn
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From: Georgia
RE: Should Felons own Firearms?
To put it in perspective; a person convicted of a felony is being punished, loss of certain rights including owning firearms, as of now, the ones that commit on the lesser side,they can get their conviction expunged in most states if they do their time, pay retrobution and keep their buts out of trouble!. But look at what it takes to accualy be convicted of a felony, I did some research befor I came back to make any more posts, arson, rape, murder, fraud, and so on were the felony charges, on toall crimes, theyare broken down and are determined if they are classified as a infraction, misdomener or a felony. Felony is the most horrid of crimes in the face of the community, to be convicted as a felon a real crime needs to be commited such as murderALSO REPEAT OFFENDERSof missdomeners are subject to be convicted as felons " they just cant stay out of trouble" I would bet that most of the Billy-Bob stories of he got into a fight and was convicted of a felony now he cant go hunt rabbits to feed his family is in fact that he probably got arrested for it more than once.. I would bet most people, other than the felons would agrea, that privlages should be lost when you cant abide the law that everyone else does. Think of when you were a child, you did something wrong, your parents would punish you, wether getting your but tore up, couldnt watch tv or whatever, they were trying to make you learn respect of the law andothers. Unfortunatly some didnt get it so sosiety and the judicial system needs to take away their toys!. If you would like to look up any of the definitions you can go to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony I would paste it here for all to see, but I dont know how to do that.