7mm Rem. Mag. - Managed Recoil Ammo ???
01-11-2008 | 09:49 AM
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Boone & Crockett
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7mm Rem. Mag. - Managed Recoil Ammo ???
Hey guys... As everyone who reads my posts knows, I've been a .243 shooter for a while, converted from using my .30-06 because I'm really not a fan of recoil.
A while back, I inherited a Remington 700 BDL 7mm Rem Mag with a Leupold 3-9X scope from a good friend who died in a plane crash. I'm curious as to whether any of you have used the Remington's Managed Recoil Ammo in your 7mm Rem. Mag., and what has been your opinion of this ammo. According to the ballistics charts, it appears to be about mid range in performance between the 7X57 and the 7mm-08. I'd like to use my friend's rifle for some deer hunting next fall, but really don't relish the idea of range sessions to make sure the scope is zeroed... He had it sighted in with the 175 gr. PSP's, which I don't really think are needed for our 150 lb. Hill Country whitetails...
A while back, I inherited a Remington 700 BDL 7mm Rem Mag with a Leupold 3-9X scope from a good friend who died in a plane crash. I'm curious as to whether any of you have used the Remington's Managed Recoil Ammo in your 7mm Rem. Mag., and what has been your opinion of this ammo. According to the ballistics charts, it appears to be about mid range in performance between the 7X57 and the 7mm-08. I'd like to use my friend's rifle for some deer hunting next fall, but really don't relish the idea of range sessions to make sure the scope is zeroed... He had it sighted in with the 175 gr. PSP's, which I don't really think are needed for our 150 lb. Hill Country whitetails...
01-11-2008 | 11:41 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Managed Recoil Ammo
Honestly, I don't think a 7mm Rem Mag kicks anymore then a 30/06, at least the ones I've shot. You might want to give it a try with regular ammo first, just to see how bad it is. If I see any of the Managed Recoil stuff around I'll pick up a box of it and try it out.
01-11-2008 | 02:45 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Managed Recoil Ammo
I think you should look into a limbsaver recoil pad for the 7mm Mag. I have one on mine and I shot a friends Remington 700 in.270 Win with awoodstock with the factory butt plate on it and it had a worse "felt" recoil than my Browning A-Bolt 7mm Mag with a synthetic stock. I mention the types of stocks because my A-Bolt weighed less than the 700 with the wood stock so recoil should have been worse on my A-Bolt.
I really am a believer in the limbsaver pads and they only cost around $20 and mine was a direct fit and just screwed on.
I really am a believer in the limbsaver pads and they only cost around $20 and mine was a direct fit and just screwed on.
01-11-2008 | 02:48 PM
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RE: Managed Recoil Ammo
P.S.S. - The only problem with the recoil pads would be that if you are a short guy the recoil pad increases the length of pull by an inch or so. I'm a gorilla type guy with long arms and torso so this was a good thing for me, but some folks have to have the stock cut down an inch or so to get a really good fit with the recoil pads on.
01-11-2008 | 02:56 PM
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RE: Managed Recoil Ammo
One of the guys I work with recommended the Pachmayr Decelerator. Is the Limbsaver better? What about Remington's R3?
My problem is that my first rifle, when I was 15 (and small for my age), was a .30-06. I developed a flinch that still haunts me (30+ years later) when shooting from the bench. I don't have any problem with my .243, but, with my .30-06, I have to force myself not to flinch. I'd like to use my buddy's rifle for a kind of memorial hunt (we were best men at each other's weddings, and next fall will be 10 years since his plane crash). I know that in large part it's psychological, but... I'm leery of shooting the 7 Mag, and thought that the Managed Recoil Ammo might be a good option.
My problem is that my first rifle, when I was 15 (and small for my age), was a .30-06. I developed a flinch that still haunts me (30+ years later) when shooting from the bench. I don't have any problem with my .243, but, with my .30-06, I have to force myself not to flinch. I'd like to use my buddy's rifle for a kind of memorial hunt (we were best men at each other's weddings, and next fall will be 10 years since his plane crash). I know that in large part it's psychological, but... I'm leery of shooting the 7 Mag, and thought that the Managed Recoil Ammo might be a good option.
01-11-2008 | 03:02 PM
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RE: 7mm Rem. Mag. - Managed Recoil Ammo ???
ORIGINAL: ipscshooter
Hey guys... As everyone who reads my posts knows, I've been a .243 shooter for a while, converted from using my .30-06 because I'm really not a fan of recoil.
A while back, I inherited a Remington 700 BDL 7mm Rem Mag with a Leupold 3-9X scope from a good friend who died in a plane crash. I'm curious as to whether any of you have used the Remington's Managed Recoil Ammo in your 7mm Rem. Mag., and what has been your opinion of this ammo. According to the ballistics charts, it appears to be about mid range in performance between the 7X57 and the 7mm-08. I'd like to use my friend's rifle for some deer hunting next fall, but really don't relish the idea of range sessions to make sure the scope is zeroed... He had it sighted in with the 175 gr. PSP's, which I don't really think are needed for our 150 lb. Hill Country whitetails...
Hey guys... As everyone who reads my posts knows, I've been a .243 shooter for a while, converted from using my .30-06 because I'm really not a fan of recoil.
A while back, I inherited a Remington 700 BDL 7mm Rem Mag with a Leupold 3-9X scope from a good friend who died in a plane crash. I'm curious as to whether any of you have used the Remington's Managed Recoil Ammo in your 7mm Rem. Mag., and what has been your opinion of this ammo. According to the ballistics charts, it appears to be about mid range in performance between the 7X57 and the 7mm-08. I'd like to use my friend's rifle for some deer hunting next fall, but really don't relish the idea of range sessions to make sure the scope is zeroed... He had it sighted in with the 175 gr. PSP's, which I don't really think are needed for our 150 lb. Hill Country whitetails...
Hi ipsc,
I have a Rem 700 ADL in 7Mag. I have used the Rem Managed Recoil on both target and a deer this year.
The recoil on the range is very similar to that of my 30-30. For another reference, i find my 30-30 has slightly more recoil than my 243.
My point of contact on paper is 2 inches below and 1 inch left on paper (in general) from my full load Rem Coreloks
I shot a deer at around 50 yards through the lungs and it ran 30 yards and fell. Exit hole was about the size of a quarter. This may not give you much info on it's longer range potential but the balistics on the Rem website seem to suggest it would be fin to 200 yards at least.
Hope this helps
01-11-2008 | 03:02 PM
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RE: Managed Recoil Ammo
One of the guys I work with recommended the Pachmayr Decelerator. Is the Limbsaver better? What about Remington's R3?
My problem is that my first rifle, when I was 15 (and small for my age), was a .30-06. I developed a flinch that still haunts me (30+ years later) when shooting from the bench. I don't have any problem with my .243, but, with my .30-06, I have to force myself not to flinch. I'd like to use my buddy's rifle for a kind of memorial hunt (we were best men at each other's weddings, and next fall will be 10 years since his plane crash). I know that in large part it's psychological, but... I'm leery of shooting the 7 Mag, and thought that the Managed Recoil Ammo might be a good
My problem is that my first rifle, when I was 15 (and small for my age), was a .30-06. I developed a flinch that still haunts me (30+ years later) when shooting from the bench. I don't have any problem with my .243, but, with my .30-06, I have to force myself not to flinch. I'd like to use my buddy's rifle for a kind of memorial hunt (we were best men at each other's weddings, and next fall will be 10 years since his plane crash). I know that in large part it's psychological, but... I'm leery of shooting the 7 Mag, and thought that the Managed Recoil Ammo might be a good
01-11-2008 | 03:13 PM
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RE: Managed Recoil Ammo
Danny D: Thank you. I was hoping someone here had used them and could give feedback one way or the other. Where I hunt, I've never had to take a shot at a deer more than 100 yards away. My longest shot has been about 175 yards on a pig. I've looked at the ballistics charts as well. The reduced recoil loads carry over 1000 ft lbs of energy all the way out to 400 yards, so, I should be OK with sub 200 yard shots on our relatively small Texas Hill Country whitetails.
oldelkhunter: The rifle is well over 10 years old. I'd bet it's over 20, so, it doesn't exactly have a soft pad on it... I've shot my .30-06 and a friends .270, both with the Remington pads that were in use prior to the R3, and while I find the recoil bearable, I'm still tend to really have to TRY not to flinch. I don't handload for my rifles. I shoot competitively with my shotguns and my .45's, so I reload for them, but, don't really do enough rifle shooting to justify the investment in equipment. Is the Limbsaver the same as the R3? Sounds like that will be my best option.
oldelkhunter: The rifle is well over 10 years old. I'd bet it's over 20, so, it doesn't exactly have a soft pad on it... I've shot my .30-06 and a friends .270, both with the Remington pads that were in use prior to the R3, and while I find the recoil bearable, I'm still tend to really have to TRY not to flinch. I don't handload for my rifles. I shoot competitively with my shotguns and my .45's, so I reload for them, but, don't really do enough rifle shooting to justify the investment in equipment. Is the Limbsaver the same as the R3? Sounds like that will be my best option.
01-11-2008 | 03:30 PM
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RE: Managed Recoil Ammo
ORIGINAL: ipscshooter
Danny D: Thank you. I was hoping someone here had used them and could give feedback one way or the other. Where I hunt, I've never had to take a shot at a deer more than 100 yards away. My longest shot has been about 175 yards on a pig. I've looked at the ballistics charts as well. The reduced recoil loads carry over 1000 ft lbs of energy all the way out to 400 yards, so, I should be OK with sub 200 yard shots on our relatively small Texas Hill Country whitetails.
oldelkhunter: The rifle is well over 10 years old. I'd bet it's over 20, so, it doesn't exactly have a soft pad on it... I've shot my .30-06 and a friends .270, both with the Remington pads that were in use prior to the R3, and while I find the recoil bearable, I'm still tend to really have to TRY not to flinch. I don't handload for my rifles. I shoot competitively with my shotguns and my .45's, so I reload for them, but, don't really do enough rifle shooting to justify the investment in equipment. Is the Limbsaver the same as the R3? Sounds like that will be my best option.
Danny D: Thank you. I was hoping someone here had used them and could give feedback one way or the other. Where I hunt, I've never had to take a shot at a deer more than 100 yards away. My longest shot has been about 175 yards on a pig. I've looked at the ballistics charts as well. The reduced recoil loads carry over 1000 ft lbs of energy all the way out to 400 yards, so, I should be OK with sub 200 yard shots on our relatively small Texas Hill Country whitetails.
oldelkhunter: The rifle is well over 10 years old. I'd bet it's over 20, so, it doesn't exactly have a soft pad on it... I've shot my .30-06 and a friends .270, both with the Remington pads that were in use prior to the R3, and while I find the recoil bearable, I'm still tend to really have to TRY not to flinch. I don't handload for my rifles. I shoot competitively with my shotguns and my .45's, so I reload for them, but, don't really do enough rifle shooting to justify the investment in equipment. Is the Limbsaver the same as the R3? Sounds like that will be my best option.
Just FYI, I recently put the limbsaver on the 7mag. I, like you, am not a fan of recoil and i have to say that the pad made a huge difference with the full loads. With the limbsaver and the Rem Managed Recoil...WOW it's an easy gun to shoot.
Personally i am fine with the full loads and the pad. In fact I would say that the full loads with the Limbsaver recoil pad is similar to the Managed Recoil loads with the old hard plastic on the butt plate