Any luck with these guns?

At one point the action was supplied by Dakota and then Beretta started making them in Maryland. I have seen a total of 2 in my entire life . I would stay as far from one as I could unless your strictly a collector. Wait until the new Model 70's show up in june of next year if you want a nice CRF rifle

Why would you think that? I've heard Dakota actions, Jewell triggers, sako barrels, and HS precision stocks. Sound pretty good to me. Only thing is they are about 8 lbs which is pretty heavy in my book, and I dont like the detachable mag. Funny you mention the Winchesters, I've got my eye on the synthetic/stainless model. As for CRF, its not as much as an issue to me. Another model I was looking at was the non-cataloged browning with the stainless barrel and duratouch stock in 30-06. Not a fan of the short mag junk. dont really care about the camo, but I dont like the stalker stock either. they seem pretty cheap to me..

Rough Action and Poor QCamong other things. I would imagine Beretta will still work on it and get parts for it. Browning A bolt is a system rifle that holds no value for me. They are great shooters but nothing about the gun willconvince me to buy one. The short mag junk works...just have to have the proper rifle chambered in it and a Model 70 is not the candidate.

Sure the stuff works, but is it worth it? Thats a big no for me. Don't want to get caught up in the hype. 1" less drop and 175 fps doesnt make a beliver out of me. I dont know what a "system rifle" is but a shooter is good in my book. Hope the new Winnie shoots as good as it looks.

Not much can be done with a Browning Abolt except repair it...some gunsmiths go to the trouble of rebarrelling them and no one to my knowlege makes replacement stocks or triggers . Same can be said of the Tikka. If you have any experience with a WSM and reload for it and reload for another cartridge that is not a WSM or short mag you'll know exactly what I mean. WInnie looks good and the tolerances are tighter but it still weighs more then a Remington or Sako and that is a liability. Nonetheless if I run across a 338 win it is mine.

There is a reason for that, the Browning's and Tikkas are perfect from the factory, and don't need any work done to them.

That is of course until they break . They are basically non rifles in my opinion. Not worth taking off the rack to look at . Now if they redesign them and put in the proper features I'll look at them . For now they are not worth my while and we are talking about a not so cheap low cost deal anymore. 600+ for a t3 and 800+ for an Abolt ...I don't think so.

Until they break? I've never heard of that. I never had any gun break before. What would you redesign? Whatis there that "fails" for a hunting rifle??I know guys that like to tinker, and end up spending more than if they had just ordered and Jarrett. If it aint broke, dont fix it. My 40 year old model 70 shoots cor loks sub moa, and everyone claimed that anything after 64 was junk.

I still cant seewhats insufficient about either of those guns...

Yeah, I would really love to know whats wrong with the A-Bolts and Tikka's as well. I own both, and have beat the living crud out of 'em and have yet to have a hiccup. Both also shoot all my handloads .5" MOA.