The Win 70 Is Back
11-03-2007, 12:05 PM
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Dominant Buck
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11-03-2007, 12:17 PM
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RE: The Win 70 Is Back
Take a used car, give it a paint job and try to sell it for 3 times what it is worth. That is what this company is trying to do.
Winchester is NOT back in buisness, what has happened is that another company has bought the patent and is going to manufacture the Model 70 Type rifle.
A 1955 Chevrolet cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $3000 new.
I could buy the patent for the dies and the design and manufacture a brand new 1955 Chevrolet. But with a price tag of $150,000 - I do not think that there would be many people that would be willing to shell out that kind of money to buy one.
I would not be called Chevrolet, I would not be allowed to call myself Chevrolet. But I could manufacture their style of automobile. I could buy the name Chevrolet, but I still wouldn't be the origional Chevrolet.
Invest you money in worthwhile ventures and not fly by night companies.
Winchester is NOT back in buisness, what has happened is that another company has bought the patent and is going to manufacture the Model 70 Type rifle.
A 1955 Chevrolet cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $3000 new.
I could buy the patent for the dies and the design and manufacture a brand new 1955 Chevrolet. But with a price tag of $150,000 - I do not think that there would be many people that would be willing to shell out that kind of money to buy one.
I would not be called Chevrolet, I would not be allowed to call myself Chevrolet. But I could manufacture their style of automobile. I could buy the name Chevrolet, but I still wouldn't be the origional Chevrolet.
Invest you money in worthwhile ventures and not fly by night companies.
11-03-2007, 01:20 PM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: The Win 70 Is Back
ORIGINAL: The Rifleman
Winchester is NOT back in buisness, what has happened is that another company has bought the patent and is going to manufacture the Model 70 Type rifle.
Invest you money in worthwhile ventures and not fly by night companies.
Winchester is NOT back in buisness, what has happened is that another company has bought the patent and is going to manufacture the Model 70 Type rifle.
Invest you money in worthwhile ventures and not fly by night companies.
11-03-2007, 04:18 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: The Win 70 Is Back
FN owns both the desings and such for the Winchester firearms as well as Browning. as mentioned above, simply making the actiona dn sticking the Winchester rollmarkings on them doesn't make them the same thing as before. Could be as good, better or worse. I do NOT see how they'll be worth the prices they are getting as a MSRP. they'll sell for less of course but even then there's other makes/models I'd go for before one of these.
As for them being made here in the States, remember it was the greed of American union workers that killed them before.
As for them being made here in the States, remember it was the greed of American union workers that killed them before.
11-04-2007, 08:08 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: The Win 70 Is Back
I'm glad to hear they'll be back but at those prices a new M70 won't be accompanying my M94 in 307 any time soon. FN made some of the best Brownings ever produced and my Interarms MK X in 30-06 looks just like a Browning. i do like that they are going back to the pre 64 controlled round feed.
11-05-2007, 07:44 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: The Win 70 Is Back
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You know, I am glad its back. But for these initial price speculations, I would just buy a Kimber, and get the same thing but better.
They have to compete with the Rem 700, and asking well over 800 dollars aint going to do it.
You know, I am glad its back. But for these initial price speculations, I would just buy a Kimber, and get the same thing but better.
They have to compete with the Rem 700, and asking well over 800 dollars aint going to do it.
Tom
11-05-2007, 08:08 AM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: The Win 70 Is Back
Keep in mind that these are suggest retail prices. Prices in the gun shops will likely be a couple hundred less.
Have you guys checked the prices on a Remington 700 CDL lately? They ain't far off the $800 mark.
As for the Kimber and Browning I would much rather have an FN made model 70 than either of the other two.
And how is this different than any of the Winchesters made since 1965?
Guns today, even at $1000 for a model 70, cost less to own in regards to wagesVS. prices back in the 50's and 60's.
That's the definition of nostalgia......... Remembering yesterdays prices with out regard to yesterdays wages.
Have you guys checked the prices on a Remington 700 CDL lately? They ain't far off the $800 mark.
As for the Kimber and Browning I would much rather have an FN made model 70 than either of the other two.
Winchester is NOT back in business, what has happened is that another company has bought the patent and is going to manufacture the Model 70 Type rifle.
A 1955 Chevrolet cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $3000 new.
That's the definition of nostalgia......... Remembering yesterdays prices with out regard to yesterdays wages.