OK; hate to drag this on but I think we are all missing the point here , Jay asked the question, is the 7.62x39 enough to kill a deer? Yes it is. and if he want`s to do it with an sks,thats entirely up to him.. My point is that is if a guy wants to hunt he doesn`t have to resort to buying some clunkie surplus war weapon.. My brother stopped by here this evening with a brand new Winchester and a full box of ammo he got for 200 bucks. It`s all a matter of what a person wants or likes. Just like this forum;; Its all about oppinions and oppinions are just like as---les ...EVERYBODY has one, and they all STINK<img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>

ALL DAY, EVERY DAY,IN THE WOODS...

Hey, I hunt with a 'clunky' old K98. Not only is it probably more accurate than most of the scoped sporting rifles that others are carrying, but its a very personal weapon to me. I reload my own ammo for it, shoot it alot to become proficient with it, and find it alot more useful than my Rem 700 in the brushy areas where I hunt. I also hunt with a 'Clunky' old flintlock also on occasion.

Nothing wrong with trading a little accuracy for more firepower- people have always made the same justification for using a lever action 30-30 over a bolt action 30-06 for hunting in the woods. If the SKS looks too militarylike just take a look at the Ruger Deerfield carbine which shoots an even less powerful cartridge and basicly looks like a cross between an M1 carbine and an M14. And what abouit the Browning BAR? The Browning BAR (browning automatic rifle) was a machinegun used extensively in WWII. The Browning BAR (Browning Autoloading Rifle) is a sporting rifle that not only has a similar name but operates much the same as the military BAR except that its not fully automatic. What do the M14, AK-47, BAR, Rem 742, SKS, AR-15 have in common? They all function on the same concept- a gas operated autoloading action. With the exception between aemi-auto and fully-auto versions, the differences are pretty much cosmetic.

Just because your state doesn't allow semi-auto rifles for hunting it doesn't mean that semi-autos are wrong for hunting, it simply means that the people of your state have elected too many uneducated dolts to office.


One more advantage of a semi-auto that is often times overlooked: The sound of the report of the rifle covers up the sound of the action cycling. If you somehow miss a shot and the animal becomes alert but not spooked, you don't have an action to cycle that will definately spook them as you would with a bolt, lever, pump, etc.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>And as far as &quot;just dont get it&quot; Where I come from hunting is a tradition and if someone came along who thought an sks was acceptable as a deer rifle ,, We would try to teach him the differance <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

I read a short story once by Shirley Jackson once called &quot;The Lottery&quot;
which was about tradition. Please enlighten me about your grand tradition.



Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms... who's bringing the chips?

Briman,
Well put. Any rifle, of any type (where legal) that is used by a shooter that has practiced and can put a killing shot to his quarry, should be considered an acceptable hunting weapon by any real hunter. To cast aspersions on a gun or a hunter based on the cost of the weapon is discriminatory at best. I understand the responsibility to make sure the firearm functions safely and is capable of delivering adequate accuracy.....but most guns...including good SKS's .... are capable of more accuracy than most shooters. I have 5 SKS's ...have never hunted with one. I prefer bolt actions for hunting. But I have no qualms about an SKS in my hunting camp.
It's no different than a Winchester Model 07, 10, 100, Browning BAR, Remington Model 8a, 81a, 74, 740, 7400, Model Four, Ruger 44, Mini 14,....or any of the semi-auto shotguns on the market.
Just one man's feelings.

Briman, to enlighten you of our GRAND TRADITION.. On the eve of the hunt we SACRIFICE a VIRGIN to the BOLT ACTION GOD and if the hunt is unsuccesful we cut off the trigger finger of her father for not telling the truth about his daughter`s purity<img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle> and if we catch anyone in the woods with guns that we dont like we run them down and beat them and take their gun and burn it..

ALL DAY, EVERY DAY,IN THE WOODS...

Sounds like a rough bunch!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms... who's bringing the chips?

WThunter; in Canada all semiauto weapons are limited to 5 shots so it might be different in your area.

Dan O.

N3YWV....roflmao..... <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
......no WONDER semi-autos are illegal where you live... YOU GUYS ARE NUTS!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I like the part about cutting off the trigger finger of the father... hoooo-boy... that's good...
anyway... hunting is a tradition down here in Texas, too. There are just many different tools used to do the job. Lots of the terrain is thick, brushy stuff.. and the shots you get are likely to be quick, snap shots as the deer takes off.... not the best situation, but, it's real life... having the availability of a quick second shot,if necessary, is a distinct advantage. A VERY distinct advantage, if you happen to wander into a group of hogs that decide to depart the scene in all directions, one of which happens to be yours.... and don't talk about taking your time and making a clean killing shot.. hogs move FAST..... and in most parts of Texas, the rancher really gets upset if you see hogs and don't shoot as many of them as you can... they have achieved &quot;severe pest&quot; status in much of the state, as they have in many other states... even &quot;Kalifornia&quot;... No, a hunting gun is a tool.. a highly PRIZED tool, in many instances, but, ultimately, still a tool. To say that one is no good for hunting simply because it doesn't &quot;look&quot; right, or doesn't cost enough, is just elitist..snobbish...prejudiced....close-minded...... heck, probably agnostic, un-American, and anti-social.... might even be flamboyant and ambidextrous...who knows?

&quot;Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness..those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&quot; Santayana

Flamboyant? Now you,ve gone too far! ;-)