retrieverman, your dreams are more like houlutionations to some of us! I for one have a realistic outlook on life where my families health is the most important thing to me!
I don't dream of a Merciedes, Lexus or Audi, I'm a Chevy type person.
If all this German stuff( guns and cars ect.) is so superior to our Mossburgs and Savages and chevy's then how did we with our inferior infastructure whip their a-- in two world wars and I'm quite sure we could do it again.
Yes I do know that Lexus isn't German but I did use it to make a point.
I do own three Savage rifles and any of them will do better than moa, all without taking a second mortgage on my home, this is a dream come true when your income is as meager as mine.

Do any of you read the original thread, or do you spout of for sake of spouting off? The guy already mentioned Kimber and Weatherby. Those rifles are $1000+ I do agree w/ retrieverman. This thread has turned into a turd push! I hardly doubt that any of you would rather take a Savage over one of the customs mentioned in this thread. If you would, quite frankly you’re an idiot. That’s right, someone who is not educated enough to make a rational decision. Don’t confuse the issue because of ignorance.

A lot of us have spouses, kids, and other obligations, so don’t take me wrong, but I am 40 something and hunt every year and bought my first rifle this year. I saved for over 10 years and spent over $2200 (I had budgeted $5000). I don’t think that Bull543 wants to buy 14 rifles instead of one. Maybe Bull543 is asking a genuine question and would like a bit of input in selecting a quality rifle. Maybe he has the resources to purchase what ever he wants. It sounds like he is not familiar w/ rifles because of where he came from and is looking for some quality input. If someone one asks you for input on a sports car, I hope you don’t say Saturn cause you can buy 5 of them for the price of a Corvette!

I don't believe a couple of you've read all the previous posts. The rifles I mentioned are quality pieces-VERY quality pieces, both the Dakota M 10 and the Mannlicher-Schoenauer. CZ, Savage, and Mossberg are not the only arms mentioned. Some of those others are excellent, BUT when it comes to actually carrying a real nice pricey one out in the mountains, a certain reluctance sets in. For example, I have a Heym combination O/U that cost over 10 K, and several others that are worth nearly as much Not nearly as priceyas some British SXS double rifles, for sure. BUT I would never take THEM out in the woods, unless I were hunting from a hochsitz with a good set of stairs to climb!!

I hunt with my cheapie Ruger No. 1's, and a couple of custom muzzleloaders......

The reason the Krauts (and others in Europe) make hunting weapons of higher quality than Americqn mass-produced arms is because in Europe, ONLY THE WEALTHY can afford to hunt! The average Joe Blow hasn't a hope of ever being able to pay the costs involved in maintaining hunting grounds. Here, anyone can hunt because the game is owned by the government (people), not private individuals.

i would still hang onto my Remington Model 700s in left and and my excellent Mathieu.

A nice Remington 700 in 243 or 270. I'm pretty simple in my choice of what I need.

Well, I think most of us in this country would be better off to put our dollars towards purchasing some of our own land to hunt on, because VERY soon hunting in this country will be similar to Europe where only the rich can hunt. If you don't own your own land or can't afford the high cost of leases, you probably won't have a place to hunt in the not to distant future. I much rather have a place to hunt with a cheap old Savage rifle than a closet full of custom rifles that could never be fired at anything other than a paper target.

Leave it to the aggie to miss the point. Yes, I did read all the posts and saw that some "high end" guns were mentioned. That is why I didn't mention them. They are what I expected to see in a thread like this.

HOOK'EM HORNS!!!

didn't mean to get all this started[X(]I just wanted to see what everyone thought was a very nice high end rifle....I always thoght something like a Browning A bolt, Weatherby mark V or kimbra was high end....but yall mentioned some rifles that i never heard of and some that cost as much as a used pickup truck...especially the foreign ones. Thats good though....learned something

Thanks!

I can't remember if I thought I was (RIFLE QUALITY EXPERT) 40 years ago when I bought my first one, but maybe thats because I also bought my first CHEVY about the same time.
You know I could write a check today for a $5000 rifle and it would be good, but I'd feel that I'd just paid a $4500 pretty tax and that sux. I'd rather spend it on ammo!

I am a working Stiff , I turn wrenches for a living . I saved and sold some Colt Sauer's to get my first Blaser Lx now I have a Luxus and4 Barrels and excessories. Both rifles I shoot and Hunt with they are no safe Queens.
Any rifle that does what is supposed to do no matter what it cost is a good thing. HERE"S A CRAZY WISH A ENGLISH DOUBLE RIFLE IN 500 NITRO EXPRESS FOR DEER HUNTING.