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Old 08-12-2007 | 07:24 PM
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CCI is now making shotshells in pistol carts. I think they come in 9mm, .40, and .38. Maybe more. Cheaper than Dirt! sells them. The shot size might be a little small for home defense if used alone, but I think a mixed load of the shotshells and hollowpoints would make things interesting.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 08:12 PM
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To Nchawkeye, I do not consider your comments as stupid. And I also believe what you say about an officer going into a bad place. However it is my opinion that in your own house there are normally more friendly's than enemies. You can figure when an officer is going into a bad place there are not alot of friendly's inside. High powered 12 gauge buckshot loads will penetrate several walls, so I would be careful with such loads. Again IMO I could be less concerned with a light 20 gauge load, and I feel this load is effective on intruder's. Considerably more effective than most, if not all pistol loads. Tom.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 09:43 PM
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I've shot one of those Taurus 410/.45and I didn;t think it was much fun. If I have my way, i will never shoot one again.

Go with a shotgun.
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Old 08-12-2007 | 10:12 PM
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I personally wouldn't get a gun that looked like it was designed to shoot someoene with. Don't get a gun and trick it all out with tactical stuff, or get one that looks like it was designed for it. Like a pistol grip and really short barrel etc. Just get a regular shotgun with a short but legal barrel and learn to shoot it well.

This way if God forbid you ever do have to shoot someone you will look like the average joe that was protecting his home and family with what he had. Not some nutcase that went out and specifically purchased or modified a weapon with the sole intent on killing someone. And yes they can try and make it look that way, and may.

Mossberg or 870 with a tight choke and some buckshot, either will work perfectly well. Just know your local laws and how to shoot.

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Same thing they taught us in our concealed weapons class. The type of ammo you shoot will also come up if you go to court!
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Old 08-12-2007 | 10:14 PM
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i am looking at buying a home protection /selfdefence shotgun i have looked at a few one was a mossberg500 with a pistolgrip only stock pump nice gun cost was 300 new from dealer the other was a tactical shotgun which had a stock that was telecoping like a ar15 stock with the pistol grip on it also it's sight where alot like a ar15 with a upper rail and a big front sight it was 800 semiauto which i likednot sure of maker but it was at gander mountain outdoor world which should i get i know one is a in house gun and the other is more long range but with eh telescoping stock closed it is just like the mosseberg also should i go semiauto or pump the money ate much of a worry but if i do not have to spend the extra 500 ii wont but i do not wont to have the wroung gun
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Old 08-12-2007 | 10:18 PM
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I personally wouldn't get a gun that looked like it was designed to shoot someoene with. Don't get a gun and trick it all out with tactical stuff, or get one that looks like it was designed for it. Like a pistol grip and really short barrel etc. Just get a regular shotgun with a short but legal barrel and learn to shoot it well.

This way if God forbid you ever do have to shoot someone you will look like the average joe that was protecting his home and family with what he had. Not some nutcase that went out and specifically purchased or modified a weapon with the sole intent on killing someone. And yes they can try and make it look that way, and may.

Mossberg or 870 with a tight choke and some buckshot, either will work perfectly well. Just know your local laws and how to shoot.

Paul
Same thing they taught us in our concealed weapons class. The type of ammo you shoot will also come up if you go to court!
Agreed. No need for confrontation just to be a jerk.

Anyway, I'd recommend a .40 XD. A great pistol; more reliable, cheaper, and compact than the glock.
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Old 08-13-2007 | 07:44 AM
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I agree wth the sentiment about not bringing a pistol to a gunsfight- a pistol is only for use when a longgun is not convenient or practicala nd I can't see where in a house a shotgun,carbine, or rifle is inconvenient.

An armed intruder is likely to be armed with a pistol- its easy for him to carry, and its not an encumbrance as he''s carrying your valuables out. Why would you fight on the same level and use a handgun when a shotgun is far superior?

As far as penetration goes, a handhun 9mm and up is going to penetrate more walls and is more likely to intrude intoyor neghbor's home than a shotgun loaded with birdshot. For that matter, an AR-15 carbine loaded with lightweight hollowpoints or even frangible bullets is going to penetrate less building materials and be a mch better manstoper than any handgun.


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Old 08-13-2007 | 08:26 AM
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just a couple of thoughts:

Many citizens tend to walk around their home looking for the intruder. It is much easier in that case for the perpetratorto disarm someone that is holding a shotgun. (think someone walking around with the barrel out in front of them as they reach a corner)
Also if it ever comes down to getting real close maybe even a hand to hand situation a handgun is much more effective as all you need is a little room to be able to get off a shot.

However, If we are talking about retreating to the farthest room, turning on all lights and wating for someone to enter that locked room while you are behind some cover then I'll certainly take the shotgun.

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Old 08-13-2007 | 10:10 AM
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Many citizens tend to walk around their home looking for the intruder. It is much easier in that case for the perpetratorto disarm someone that is holding a shotgun. (think someone walking around with the barrel out in front of them as they reach a corner)
If you are doing it right, its not a problem. You want to pie a corner or room before sticking any part of you or your weapon beyond what you can see. At any rate, get your family safe in one room, and let the police clear your residence- its a very dangerous process even for people who are working in teams and have a lot of training and experience let alone a single person with absolutely no training to do.
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Old 08-13-2007 | 11:59 AM
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NO doubt Briman,
My plan, and we as a family have practiced it, is to retreat to my bedroom. We stay there and let whatever is happening in the house happen while calling the police and waiting for them to take care of whoever has entered.
Lord help anyone walking through that door that has not been identified.

However I will say that the average person will be walking through the house looking for whoever has come in. That is not a good situation.
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