Chris;

When I was a kid (think 10), I had an A-Bolt 30-06, and this was when the BOSS system first came out in the early 90s. The gun was BEYOND loud, which is why I ended up getting rid of it, BUT I was a small framed 10 y.o shooting a 30-06. It litterally felt like shooting my 1100 20ga with dove loads. But, it was just too dang loud, even with ear plugs.

The BOSS is good for young/small kids, and certainly anyone with back or shoulder injury issues, that is VERY sensitive to recoil. But, with the gas operation of a BAR....you don't need it.

I was looking into a gun for a customer who had just had some back surgury. He wanted a .243 BAR with a BOSS. Since it wasn't offered, and Browning wouldn't make him one (even though he offered up the custom shop price...which was foolish of him), an engineer I spoke with at Browning said that the BAR, being gas operated will kill recoil much more than the BOSS system would on an A-Bolt (which was our only option with a .243). So if you are recoil sensitive, you'll be fine with the BAR.

wow! that is a major cut in recoil. so if i get the BAR in .308, it would feel like a .270, or something in that range?

A 308 would probably feel like a 243 with a BOSS.

I think the reason they are considered less accurate is because the barrels heat up from rapid shooting. I believe any gun that gets fired to fast will loose accuracy. I am sure that because of free float action they loosea bit of accuracy also. But other than that, It depends on what you call accurate.3/4 inch group at 100yrds is way good enough for a follow up shots and considered quite good. I try to stick to the one shot one kill rule.

.308 already has very similar recoil to a .270

yes, i always stick to one the one shot rule. ifollow up shots is not why i want the BAR, its because of reduced recoil.i could get a larger caliber bullet without theraise of recoil energy, but it looks like i cant do that without a sacrifice in recoil.

does the remington 700 shoot. i know my dads is a tac driver. but ive seen and heard very bad things about that gun, such as flipping the safety off causing it to fire, and closing the bolt causing it to fire. thats why im leaning towards the browning.

Those are VERY isolated cases Chris. The 700 is a fantastic design, very safe and very accurate. Most of the time, the things that cause those rifles to fire are things brought on by the users themselves...such as trying to adjust the trigger pull themselves, causing the sear to slip...and the gun to slam fire.

As far as trying to reduce recoil. I think that there are better ways to do that than going with a semi. There is certainly nothing wrong with that, but I think you will be able to save some money, and have a more accurate platform if you go with a standard bolt action. Many of the more popular calibers, such as .308, .270 and .30-06, now have ammo makers loading reduced recoil loads, which offer up to 50% less recoil out of the exact same gun. They are not quite as capable performance wise, so 300 yard shots are out....you'd probably want to keep it under 200. But I am sure that with a little practice at that range, you can be deadly with them. Then, once you get bigger, and more used to shooting, you can step right into full powered loads, and have an accurate bolt action rifle to use. Only thing that changes is the bullet...not the gun. Just an idea for you to think on.

well, i changed my mind again from the BAR to the Rem 700. before, i knew thati was 100% sure that the BDL was my prefered choice of 700. but now, i think that the SPS Stainless i a better choice.

Do you have any experience with the stainless and the BDL? I can handle 150 gr. .270 shell; i just thought that the reduced recoil was an added bonus.

I know your not thinking Rem. But I just bought a Rem 750 Woodsmaster 30-06... Shoots .75 - 1.0 inch groups at 100 yards with Remington 180gr PSP

Shot 2 does last fall. 1 was around 150 yards and the other was over 200 yards...

Just something to think about

The boss system is an adjustable weight on the barrel to tune the barrel for the load you are using. It's not a muzzle break, you can get it with a break, or without. However the BOSS system is a tunable barrel, not a muzzle break. If you don't want the noise don't get one with the break built in. I don't think that was an option years ago though.

I haven't shot a lot of different centerfire designs, but I have shot enough that I have shot one of each. And I have shot rimfires a lot in all of them. My opinion is it really doesn't matter. Semi Auto, bolt, break action, lever action or whatever they can all be accurate. It has more to do with the build quality and design of the particular gun over all, not the type of action.

I can't imagine a BAR being a piece of crap.

Paul