moa??

1 shot 1 kill, how many other guns have you done that have shot better out of the box, or with only $200 worth of work done. Like I said, I'm looking for the most accuracy for the money, so if I can buy another rifle, then add work done to it to get the same or better results than the PSS, for less than $800 bucks, I'll change my mind, but $800 plus tax is what I'm willing/able to give right now. What other target rifles are going to give me the same or better accuracy for the same price or less, right out of the box, OR, what rifle can I buy and build for less than that price??

BTW, Rem .222, .75 MOA at 800 yrds with a 1/4" MOA scope is going to be 1.5" off, not 6" remember, 1/4" MOA means you're adding 1/4" per 100 yrds, or 1" per 400 yrds, so 1MOA at 800 would be 2", so 2"x.75 is 1.5".

Screw the 10 ring, keep them in the zero!!!

.300wbymag,

MOA stands for "minute of angle". Generally people use 1" at 100 as MOA, although it's actually 1.047" at 100 yards.

There are 360 degrees in a circle. Each degree is divided into 60 minutes. One degree of a circle with a radius of 100 yards would be equal to 1.047"

NoMercy,
I wasn't refering to your scope adjustment. I was stating that a .75MOA @800yds=6". In other words .75MOA @100yds = 3/4" times that by 8 and you come up with 6". I would like to see a factory rifle shoot a 11/2" group at 800yds that would be impressive,or any rifle for that matter.

Rem. 222

Bigcountry, the PSS has a H-S Precision stock on it with the aluminum receiver block. Next time you have it out of the stock look at the bottom of the receiver and you should see were the receiver is riding on the two fine rails of the aluminum block. These rails run on both side of the block about 3/16-1/4" above the magazine. These rails are designed for "pillar" purposes, they are not always uniform, eventhough they are cut with state of the art CNC machines.

Also, if you loosen the action screw a bit, you can actually slide the receiver back and forth slihgtly, and cant it to one side or the other. I mill these rails out and install pillars the the actions go though the center. I make these pillars for each individual rifle to eliminate any adverse torqueing of the reciever. This is the only way to ensure that there is uniform pressure throughout the reciever, with no adverse torqueing or bindng. The receiver and barrel is then bedded in Devcon, from the rear tang of the receiver to 3" past the recoil lug.

Nomercy, for the work I do for the local police departments, I give them a break, and only charge them $450 per rifle. I normaly charge $750 for work this extensive. This is because a law enforcement sniper needs the most accurate rifle possible. Very seldom do they have room for error and more than likely a human life or lives hang in the balance. The PSS is a good rifle out of the box. It can be made better with a lot of detailed work. $800 for a PSS is a good deal and I certainly will not try and talk you out of it. They will shoot 1.5MOA or better out of the box, that is all that the Army's M-24 SWS rifles are guarenteed to shoot. For about $200, the best things you can do is have the stock's receiver block rails removed and pillars installed then bedded, trigger tuned to 2#, and the locking lugs lapped in. After the lapping of the locking lugs make the headspace is checked.

In my opinion though, a heavy barreled Remington VLS or VS, will give you the same performance for a little less money. As will, the Winchester M-70 stealth varmint or the Savage M-12BVSS or M-10FPLE1A. There are several others like the Ruger M-77VTMKII, the Howa M-1500 heavy barreled, or Tikka M-595, that come to mind as well. Regardless of what you decide on, you deck it out and personalize it a little at a time. The main thing I would suggest is to get a good tatical one piece base, a good set of tactical rings, and as high of quality scope, with plenty of adjustment, as you can afford.

To build a high quality tactical rifle would cost $2,000 minimum up to $3,500.

No Mercy,
You would be surprised of how many people asked the same question to me about what is the best accurate rifle next to the military rifle of course. I have already asked my armorers at Quantico, they say the most accurate rifle without spending any money would be the Model 700 VS Remington and/or the Model 70 Stealth Winchester. The military has spent the taxpayers money on trying to find the most accurate rifle so therefore I would believe them. Anyone can spent the $$ to build them an accurate rifle but with the money you want to spend, You could indeed build an accurate rifle but with just $4-500 and with the models mentioned above you could have an hell of an accurate rifle..just how accurate depends on the shooter,terrian, conditions and type of ammunition. My M40A3 has about $2,800 of work done to it and some of new trainees still cannot get an good MOA EVEN AT 300 METERS!
My question to you is what are you going to use it for? Benchrest, Target practice or/and varmint hunting? The type of rifle you tend to build has to suit the environment in which it is to be used for.
The amorers tell me there are a million ways to accuratize a rifle but for what purpose is it to be used for? Everyone has a favorite but it really the shooter skills that comes in play about 50% of the time.

Deersniper: The comment you made about "Hunting is the one sport if you playing right, the other team doesn't know your playing"
Just who is the other TEAM? Animals or Humans?

Well, MSGT.GHILLIEMAN,

First off that is just a quote that I found somewhere that seems to apply well to my personal style of deer hunting (stalk). But, hey, whatever works. (laughing out loud) However, as I want to think that your name shows, you might know that it would also apply in other condtions (speaking of military/police sniper callouts).

One Shot, One Kill
Hunting is the one sport where, if you are playing right, the other team doesn't even know you're playing.

Deer sniper,
Well thanks for your honesty, but an old legend once told us (Being new trainees at Quantico) The job selects the man, not the other way around. Being a great shot with a rifle is only 30% of the job.

Keep practicing the art of stalking, when you master the skill of sneaking up to game. Join the service and refine those skills in trying to sneak up on the enemy. Because stalking is a dying art and we could probably use you if the job fits you for the Army or Marines .

Best of luck and I may know a thing or two about this crazy thing called Sniping...not too much though..................