I posted on here looking for a cheap starter scope for the Remington 700PSS that I'm set up to get in January, but I got a lot of responses that I should buy a different rifle completely. Now I want some proof. I want a rifle that will give .75MOA or less groups clear out to 800-1000 yrds. a military site I found quotes the 700PSS's they've had as having a .5MOA average at 800 yrds after a break in cycle with no alterations. I'm still planning on buying the PSS, but I'm leaving it to you guys to convince me that a cheaper gun can do better. I'm set to buy this PSS for $800 plus tax, and don't plan on altering it soon at least, unless need be or I get rich, so $800 is the ceiling with any gunsmithing included if I were to change my mind, which isn't going to buy much smithy work, so I'm guessing you'd have to think stock rifles that need LITTLE work. The gauntlet has been thrown down.

Screw the 10 ring, keep them in the zero!!!

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Are you set on a new rifle??
You could get a Rem. 40x in 308 for around that price. You could also get into a 300 mag with a trued Rem. action and match grade barrel. Go to benchrest.com click on complete rifles and go to shooters corner.
They have a ton of rifles that will do what you want for around $800.
I personally love Rem. rifles. Most smiths know how to work on them and the parts are very common.
Good luck.

Well, I wouldn't count on that PSS giving you that kinda accuracy. It might, but I had one that wouldn't. The barrel was so rough, that I couldn't do anything with it. Also the crown on the factory barrel was way out of round. The throat was excessively long, even for a factory gun. I had the barrel replaced and a few accuraizing items done and it will shoot .75MOA. But thats about it. But I had another for a short time that would get 1MOA accuracy out of box.

Buying factory guns is a risk if your looking for that super shooter out of the box. You can increase your chances of getting a shooter by getting the 40X or something out of the custom shop. They generally seem to have a smoother bore and are better made. I myself have just try to have them built by a smith I trust and has fair prices. Which can be a problem in itself.

.75MOA @ 800yds = 6" not imposible with practice, reading the wind, and good optics.

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I to have heard the claims of accuracy of the Rem 700PSS. I however am not yet convinced. However, if/when you do get this rifle and begin to test it out, I would LOVE to hear what you find to be true. What caliber do you plan to get? And, where are you goin to get it? If it does what they say it will, I will be next in line for one. lol Either way, keep me/us updated

One Shot, One Kill
Hunting is the one sport where, if you are playing right, the other team doesn't even know you're playing.

I know a guy who bought one at a gunshow about a year ago and he got about the same results as Bigcountry did. He traded his off after fooling with it for three months or so. I think he had a 6x18 leupold sight on it. Dont hold your breath on getting .5 moa. Its possible but no more likely than getting a savage varmint gun that will do the same thing. I still say you are wasting your time and money putting a cheap sight on a rifle and hoping to get that kind of accuracy. Of course somebody else "said" that it will shoot .5moa at 800 yards, so do what you think best and find out for yourself. Good luck.

I have shot and reworked a dozen or so Remington PSS for local law enforcement agencies. I shot all the PPS's beofre any work was done on them, with Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr MHPBT. I shot at least three 5 rounds groups at 100yds, to test the accuracy of the rifle, before I reworked it. On average, I would say all these PSS's shot constistent 1.5MOA groups at 100yds.

Then I reworked them. I took it completely apart, even reomving the barrel. I blue printed and trued the reciever, squared and trued the receiver face, squared and trued the barrel shoulder, lapped the locking lugs in, recut and recrowned the muzzle, lapped the bore, then reset the correct headspace of the chamber, installed a Tubbs extra large recoil lug, and tuned the triggers down to 2#. Then I milled out the inside of the forearm of the stock and bedded four 3/8" aluminum rods, side by side, in the forearm, milled out the receiver area slightly, installed pillars, bedded the receiver and forward of the recoil lug 3". I then opened up the forearm to a concentric .065"-.075" gap freefloat. I then reamed the scope rings for perfect scope alignement.

Then back to the range for testing. Again I fired at least three 5 rounds groups at 100yds were fired, with the same Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr MHPBT ammo. Group size were cut at least in half. On average the rifles grouped .5MOA, with a couple of the best grouping 1/4MOA and a couple of the worst grouping 3/4MOA.

My guess, based on my experiences with the PSS, in it's original configuration, is that it will group 1MOA-1.5MOA. That is not great, but it is not all that bad either. One thing that I noticed about the PSS, is that it is consistent. Groups may vary a 1/4MOA, but it is a consistant and stable shooter. Never can tell, you may have one that will be a sub-MOA shooter as is.

One Shot, on my PSS, it seems to have aluminum bedding block in the stock. Just curious on why you need to repillar?

bigcountry, I think he meant he ran them down the length of the forearm to stiffen it. Same thing I had to do to my Savage that came with a flimsy synthetic stock.