The 300 can do anything a 30-06 will do and is better at longer ranges.

the topic is not speed...any one can add 2 and 2...the same bullets...but one with more powder, the one with more powder will go faster becoz more pressure from all the powder bein burnt...but the topic is sayin he read about where the 06 is better....and it should penetrate more coz its moving slower and not expanding as much as fast as said...id love to see the test when you get a chance

mauser06

All depends on the ammo. If you match a bullet to your game or purpose, of course the Win Mag will beat out the 06. If you want penetration, pick a thick skinned bullet or armor type bullet. If you are shooting deer, pick a nosler or something. Believe it or not, I can pentrate more with my bow than you can with you 06. Does it make it a better performer? I think not. With the variety of bullets out there, you can meet about any purpose you got.

bigcountry, I shoot a bow, but I would have to see it to believe it. I have put a 30-06 round through an engine block.

Oh come on guys, I am sure you have seen the 5 gallon bucket of sand test. Take your decently fast (say over 280 fps bow) and shoot thru a bucket of sand with field tips. Now take your 06 or win mag and do it. Now try it with water. Seen it done at the outdoor shows. Go to the tech page on bow and ask them. Or sacrifice the arrow and try it. You got to think, that is almost 800grains of projectile flying at 280fps. Thats alot of energy out of the shute. goes down quick and fast however.

bigcountry, I'll let you in on a secret. I was shooting surplus military ammo. It was armor piercing. You are right about penetration not meaning knockdown.

SAND DEER? cool

SAW DUST!!! What does the Alaskan Fish and Wildlife think its doing? The only bears made of saw dust are TEDDY BEARS<img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>I guess any type of ballistic gellatin would freeze up there?<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I haveead thistopic. I think there was a mistakein the naming of the 300Win mag. the factory loads for the 300h@H mag makes more since. the hienergy loads for the 06 and the hornday light magloads out preform the 300 H and h &quot;holand and holand&quot; not the 300win mag in my blic. charts some of the hi eng 06 ore close to fact standerd 300 wmbut the win mag betats it out but on the other hand the Hi eng loads do out perform the 300 h @H but only slightly