270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
02-04-2007 | 08:46 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: 270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
ORIGINAL: 7MM.REMINGTON.MAGNUM
hmmm this is verry interesting but thats factory right what would happen if we handloaded both say shot 150 grainers i think we could get the 7mm mag to outperform the 270wsm. am i right? i just am haveing a hard time seeing that the 270 msm cant be beaten by the 7mm mag in 150 grain area theres no doubt that the 7mm kills the 270 wsm in heavier bullets i have seen listings for the 7mm mag just under 4000 fps i cant remember if it was 150 grain bullets or if it was 164gr but what do you guys think
hmmm this is verry interesting but thats factory right what would happen if we handloaded both say shot 150 grainers i think we could get the 7mm mag to outperform the 270wsm. am i right? i just am haveing a hard time seeing that the 270 msm cant be beaten by the 7mm mag in 150 grain area theres no doubt that the 7mm kills the 270 wsm in heavier bullets i have seen listings for the 7mm mag just under 4000 fps i cant remember if it was 150 grain bullets or if it was 164gr but what do you guys think
4000fps??? With 150 or 164 (???)
?? Put down the crack pipe and slowwwwwly step away... that IS funny though MMWhy do people even bother responding to this guy? He haspoisoned the entire forum and continues to do so with new names daily and people just keep responding. I wonder if this is someone from another forum trying to kill this board or if it is somebody that is really that f'ed up...
02-04-2007 | 09:41 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: 270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
ORIGINAL: M77man
Actually I just compared the balistics in the same weights and types of round. The 270WSM beats the 7 Mag in terms of fps and foot pounds of energy along with trajectory and wind drift naturally. Now if 270 WSM were more widely available and less expensive then 7mm Rem Mag, then it would be the logical choice.
Actually I just compared the balistics in the same weights and types of round. The 270WSM beats the 7 Mag in terms of fps and foot pounds of energy along with trajectory and wind drift naturally. Now if 270 WSM were more widely available and less expensive then 7mm Rem Mag, then it would be the logical choice.
02-04-2007 | 09:45 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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From: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
RE: 270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
ORIGINAL: 7MM.REMINGTON.MAGNUM
hmmm this is verry interesting but thats factory right what would happen if we handloaded both say shot 150 grainers i think we could get the 7mm mag to outperform the 270wsm. am i right? i just am haveing a hard time seeing that the 270 msm cant be beaten by the 7mm mag in 150 grain area theres no doubt that the 7mm kills the 270 wsm in heavier bullets i have seen listings for the 7mm mag just under 4000 fps i cant remember if it was 150 grain bullets or if it was 164gr but what do you guys think
hmmm this is verry interesting but thats factory right what would happen if we handloaded both say shot 150 grainers i think we could get the 7mm mag to outperform the 270wsm. am i right? i just am haveing a hard time seeing that the 270 msm cant be beaten by the 7mm mag in 150 grain area theres no doubt that the 7mm kills the 270 wsm in heavier bullets i have seen listings for the 7mm mag just under 4000 fps i cant remember if it was 150 grain bullets or if it was 164gr but what do you guys think
My 26" 7mm Maggie can do over 3300 with a 140-grain bullet, and I have gotten 3420 with oneparticular lot of Norma N205 powder which is long departed. No currently available powder in this country will do as well as that old N205 did.
02-04-2007 | 09:52 AM
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RE: 270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
ORIGINAL: eldeguello
Only if you are stuck shooting factory ammo, and choose to believe the MV claims they are making to sell the shorties!
ORIGINAL: M77man
Actually I just compared the balistics in the same weights and types of round. The 270WSM beats the 7 Mag in terms of fps and foot pounds of energy along with trajectory and wind drift naturally. Now if 270 WSM were more widely available and less expensive then 7mm Rem Mag, then it would be the logical choice.
Actually I just compared the balistics in the same weights and types of round. The 270WSM beats the 7 Mag in terms of fps and foot pounds of energy along with trajectory and wind drift naturally. Now if 270 WSM were more widely available and less expensive then 7mm Rem Mag, then it would be the logical choice.
02-04-2007 | 09:57 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: 270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
Once again, people are believing the hype and propaganda that the ammo manufacturers are spewing forth. I'll say it again the only way to know is to shoot the load in YOUR gun over a chronograph and to shoot at the ranges mentioned. Anything else is just heresay.
02-04-2007 | 10:04 AM
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RE: 270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
ORIGINAL: eldeguello
Only if you are stuck shooting factory ammo, and choose to believe the MV claims they are making to sell the shorties!
ORIGINAL: M77man
Actually I just compared the balistics in the same weights and types of round. The 270WSM beats the 7 Mag in terms of fps and foot pounds of energy along with trajectory and wind drift naturally. Now if 270 WSM were more widely available and less expensive then 7mm Rem Mag, then it would be the logical choice.
Actually I just compared the balistics in the same weights and types of round. The 270WSM beats the 7 Mag in terms of fps and foot pounds of energy along with trajectory and wind drift naturally. Now if 270 WSM were more widely available and less expensive then 7mm Rem Mag, then it would be the logical choice.
They don't lie about their ballistics. Any idiot with a $50 chrono can check it. It's common knowledge that they use SAAMI chambers (minimum dimensions) and 24" test barrels (onmost rounds). It says as much on the catalogs.
The other thing about factory ammo, especially the short mags is that they can get better performance from the same weight of powder than a handloader can. They use different powders that we don't have access to, and they use different shaped powders, sometimes in a blend that we cannot reproduce. Plus, they can load compressed powder charges with their special equipment (Hornady Light Mag etc).
It mostly comes down to believing what you want to believe, not what's actually happening.
02-04-2007 | 10:21 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: 270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
ORIGINAL: BrutalAttack
They don't lie about their ballistics.
They don't lie about their ballistics.
Hahahahah.
Ya my truck gets 24 mpg like they claimed, were responsible for global warming, the government has nothing to do with the price of gas, wal-mart guns are grade 2, scent lock suits do work, and Bill Clinton never lied either.
02-04-2007 | 01:02 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: 270 wsm is it flatter than a 7mm rem mag
They don't lie about their ballistics. Any idiot with a $50 chrono can check it.
I agree thndrchicken the only real way is firing them from your rifle over a chronograph and at the distances you intend to shoot. Anything less is only a guess. I have seen 2 identical rifles/loads at different MV's on many occasions, their is more then just powder in a case that factors into the performance equation and the only way to knowis by testing!