triggerhappy

No, like already said you have more volume with the 06 and with the heavier bullets it will ballisticly perform better.

In the hunting arena the animal will never know the difference in how dead it is from the 308 to the 30-06.

In target shooting up until a decade ago in the highpower world the 308 was a staple.

It can be argued that a shorter stiffer action and a shorter powder column is more efficient and accurate. And for the cycling of a bolt action rifle the shorter throw is more desirable and less apt to feeding problems.

The long and short of it is that they both are great cartridges that have well proved themselves with each having it's own merit.

Roskoe

I think a lot of it depends on whether you are handloading or buying factory ammunition. It is difficult to handload .308ammo much faster than factory stuff. And it is fairly easy to handload .30-06 rounds 100 or more fps faster than factory fodder. Just about all 30-06 factory ammo is loaded to below 50K CUP due to some of the older Springfields floating around with soft receivers. .308 ammo is normally loaded to 55K CUP and, has been already noted, produces about the same velocity as the 30/06 with 150 and 165 grain bullets.

mauser06

bigpapa...what are you smokin? i could use some of that good stuff!! the 308 is 100-150fps SLOWER THAN the 3006 you say...then you say it has a flatter trajectiory??? W H A T? how is that possible??

accuracy??? snipers?? ask Carlos Hathcock about that since you want to talk snipers. comparing the accuracy of the 2 is pretty rediculous.

i know guys that will outshoot you all day with a 22lr and you with a 308...you dont see that as a sniper rifle though

JagMagMan

Second class? NO! I doubt that any animal shot with either would know the difference!
The plus in the accuracy edge would be that of short action vs. long action, the plus of the '06 is reloading and heavier bullets!
I don't own an '06, and the .308 is my favorite caliber, if I owned one gun, yes, it would probably be an '06! There is no doubt that the '06 is a great cartridge, but.......
there was once a good article written about the '06, "Jack of all trades, Master of none!" It is a great one-gun cartridge, but anything the '06 can do, something else can do better! For deer, anything the '06 can do, the .308, or .300 Savage can do, WITH less recoil! For larger game, with heavier bullets, anything the '06 can do, magnum .30 caliber, or larger can do better! For long range shooting, the 7MM's and some other mag calibers, can shoot flatter, and hit harder!
Again, I am not knocking the '06, the difference between it an the .308 Winchester ain't worth losing sleep over!

TUK101

With todays modern bullet design I would have to say no. The 308 has a shorter action which tends to make for a more comforatable gun to shoot and carry. There is a tradeoff with a few fps, but either gun will kill an Elk, Moose or whatever you point them at. I dont shoot either one anymore, I shoot a .270 so this is mostly just my opinion gathered from what I have read and from owning a few different rifles over the years. The .30.06 just has a lot of history on its side and that is tough to beat.

eldeguello

There's nothing second-class about the .308. Since it was adopted as a replacement for the .30/'06, it is bound to be as good, and in some respects, it is better.

While it is true that the .30/'06 has a larger powder capacity, and consequently can be loaded to higher velociuties than the .308, this "advantage" is not too noticeable in factory ammo. In addition, due to its smaller case, the .308 is a little more accurate on the average than the '06.

I have seen many wound channels made in deer and elk by these two cartridges. Believe me, I could not tell you WHICH cartridge made which hole, and neither could the animal! The same goes for the old .300 Savage as well.

eldeguello

Obviously, it can't, IF both projectiles have the same ballistic coefficient. The '06 will shoot flatter-but not enough to make ANY difference at all in hitting at long ranges!

RonM

I have both, Once I took the 06 bear hunting, but the 308 is my weapon of choice, it has less recoil, less muzzle blast , and less travel for the next round if needed. In fact when I took the 06 bear hunting I didnt have the 308 that I now have....Personally I prefer the 308 as an all around cartridge...

ipscshooter

That's why I said "comparing identical bullets." If the bullets are identical, they will have the same ballistic coefficient.

Right,the trajectories are very similar. But, the 06 is still flatter, every time, which was the point of my post. I didn't say "a lot" flatter. Sighted in at 200 yards, the 06 generally shows 3-4 inches less drop than the 308 at 500 yards. Theoretically, that'senough to be the difference between a clean kill and a miss, or worse.

statjunk

"Sighted in at 200 yards, the 06 generally shows 3-4 inches less drop than the 308 at 500 yards. Theoretically, that'senough to be the difference between a clean kill and a miss, or worse. "

But your talking about 3-4" on a base of 3+ feet at 500 yards. Not much difference in my book.

Tom