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bttorney 09-19-2006 10:30 PM

270 WSM
 
Hello all. Long time lurker, first time posting. Could someone give me the pros and cons of the 270 WSM?? I'm looking to buy a rifle tohunt deer (Kansas whitetail and/or mule deer)where shots up to 300 yards arenot uncommon. I've been scouring the area shops and came across what appears to be a good deal on a gun that has only had a few shots fired through it. I've borrowed my father-in-laws 243 a couple years now (it's the only rifle I've ever shot so my reference point is limited)but I'm hooked so I would like to buy my own.

younggun308 09-19-2006 11:45 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
A .243 can take down a Mule Deer as good as any rifle of greater caliber can, just place your shot well.
If you want more power, get a 30-06.

Doe Dumper 09-20-2006 12:09 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
That 270 wsm would be a sweet long range round. Just remember to practice at the range you intend to shoot up to. Besides that...if you want it and it fits you right...go for it!!! That round will hammer about anything farther than most of us could ever hit with it..lol.

DANTHEHUNTER 09-20-2006 04:19 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I have one in a browning a-bolt. It is a very good whitetail/mule deer round.I havent loaded for it yet so still shooting factroy round win. 150 gr. sp they worked just fine on the deer I have taken with it.

trailer 09-20-2006 05:52 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
The 270 WSM is a long range cartridge as previously mentioned. I’ve only practiced shooting out to 200 yards but it’s capabilities are twice that distance with practice. I really like the short action. The recoil on the 270 WSM will definitely be more then the 243 but manageable. I’ve loaded for mine with the 140 gr. Accubond but haven’t found that perfect load yet. Good luck...

ShatoDavis 09-20-2006 08:38 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
The 270 wsm is a hammer of thor. It flat puts the smack down on deer. Its ballisticly (sp?) identical to the 270 weatherby with better accuracy potential. I would rate Recoil as moderate ( I rate the 243 as light). its a winner, go for it!

James B 09-20-2006 08:44 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I really like mine. I have not shot any game with it yet but its very accurate and paxcks a litle more whop than the 270 Win. Which has plenty of what it takes to hunt NA big game. You can't go wrong with the 270 or 270 WSM.

bttorney 09-20-2006 12:00 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. The only downsideI could findwould betheprice and possible availabilityof ammo (since I don't load my own). But several of the local stores do carry at least a couple boxes of ammo so I should be ok.

Triple Se7en 09-21-2006 09:35 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
If you never owned a WSM before, you can go up in caliber with lessfeltrecoil climb than the regular mag offerings. I would suggest the 7-Mil or the .300-WSM instead. I have the .270 and .300 WSM. Hardly ever use the .270 nowadays.

Pluto 09-21-2006 10:03 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
bt, I am going to be somewhat contrary to the others posts. I would recomend you get a 'stadard' cartridge. In your situation, first gun, I would recommend a 308, 270, 30-06 or 7mm Rem. Look hard for a 270 or 30-06.

I am sure the 270wsm is a fine round. If you bought one you would likely be happy. It will do anything the other rounds will do. I consider it a cartridge for someone who already has a safe full of guns, not as a first gun.

Good luck and good hunt'n

statjunk 09-21-2006 11:01 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I would also recommend that you get a standard cartridge. Mainly because of the cost of the ammo. You want a gun that is cheap to shoot so that you'll actually shoot it. I'd suggest a .308 or .30-06.

However if the deal is too good to pass up, maybe 50% of retail, then go for it.

Tom

stubblejumper 09-21-2006 12:32 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
The 7mmremmag offers nearly the same ballistics with a much larger selection of factory loads.It also offers theoption of using heavier bullets if you choose to hunt larger game in the future.

tatonka 09-21-2006 12:49 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Yep....stick with a standard cartridge is good advice, but if you have a real hankering for the .270 WSM, go for it. I shot a .270 for years. Bought a .270 WSM two years ago. I really like it, but the ammo isn't cheap. You can usually find ammo for a .270 or 30-06 on sale and factory loads for those rifles these days is excellent. I like the .270 WSM a lot, but my son has pretty much layed claim to it. Montana is open country, and it will "reach out and touch them". I bought a Tikka and am very pleased with the accuracy out of the box, how it handles, etc.

James B 09-21-2006 04:44 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
In my neck of the woods , Walmart sells ammo for the 270 WSM. Its really no more expensive than any other Magnum shell. Cost of ammo is not a big deal unless you are going to shoot it a lot. Even then, places like Midway have ammo sales and you can stock up then. Most all the bigger sporting goods stores have them all the time. Or set up and reload for it.

wernerjd 09-21-2006 06:29 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I would go with the 270 wsm. I bought mine this summer and have put about 200 rounds throught it and love it.

bttorney 09-22-2006 08:02 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Well, I had no intention of buying a short mag when I started looking. I just stopped at a gun shop in a nearby town and that's what they happened to have in my price range. I've been looking for something in the 270, 7mm, 308 range but to no avail. The ammo cost is the biggest drawback I can see at$30.00 + per box[:@]

Triple Se7en 09-22-2006 09:51 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Mine arefrom $20-$25 at Bass Pro Shop or Cabelas. Look in the Winchester and Federal brand for the WSM offerings.

The WSM cartridge is not cheap to purchase in factory loads. If you plan on alot of shooting, buy the regular 7-Mag or .308 rifles -- then get into reloading.

James B 09-22-2006 10:07 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
What would be the reason not to own a 270WSM as a first rifle? Just curous as to the reasoning. As far as getting the job done, the 270,or 308 would be considered fine for use for the same kind of hunting, however the 270 WSM is certainly in the same class.

Zeak 09-23-2006 04:26 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Just picked up a 270wsm in a Tika-T3 this week. Went to the range this morning and zeroed it in. Worked up a few loads and one of the loads was grouping around a 1/2 inch at 100yds. I'm pretty impressed with the cal. allready. Have shot a 270 win for years and nothing wrong with that cal either. The 270wsm does have a bit more recoil than the 270 win. I do my own reloading so the cost isn't much more than the 270 win, it just takes alittle more powder. Zeak

bttorney 09-26-2006 02:26 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Ammo cost isn't a big deal to me. I don't have the opportunity or time (too many other hobbies) to do a lot of shooting. Couple trips to the in-laws to shoot out in the county and deer season itself would be my only shooting.

heeze gutshot shortee 09-28-2006 07:02 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
.270wsm pricey and not always readily available on shelves..But you make up your own mind ..its your cash

tbuck300wsm 10-15-2006 07:53 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I have both the 270 and 300 wsm, and I dont know about you but when I get ammo I usally buy 2 boxes or so and every year you get more so tring to find ammo is usally a non issue, who in here can tell me you only have 1 box of ammo for your rifle in your house I would think 3 or more boxes min would be more real .....

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James B 10-15-2006 09:17 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I have both the 270 WSM and the 270 Win. I reload so ammo cost and availability are of no concern to me. The 270 WSM will give you about the same gain over the 270 Win. as the 300 Win Mag has over the 30-06. This about 200 FPS. Enough to matter in the real world? Probably not but the numbers are there.

I only tried the 270 WSM because I wanted to try a Short Mag and also a Savage accu-trigger rifle so I combined the two and got the Savage Varmit model in 270 WSM.

Also I wanted to try one before DD does.:D

Doe Dumper 10-15-2006 09:35 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Well Im gonna beat you to the draw on a 325 wsm :DMay be the only caliber you dont own[:@]

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cpsniper05 10-15-2006 11:59 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 

ORIGINAL: Magnum_Man_300

200 FPS is enough to scare people at the range and give me a flatter trajectory. And quite a bit more power.:D:D:D:D
So if 200 FPSis enough to scare people at the range and give you a flatter trajectory and a bit more power then why go with the standard .270 if the .270 WSM seems to have an edge on paper, without regards to price of bullets, etc.

cartman308 10-16-2006 02:58 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
not going to start a fight or hijack the post..........my appologies

suufice it to say there are many pros to the short mags.... are they better than standards or mag????? That's personal opinion but the WSMs to have some advantages.

James B 10-16-2006 04:02 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Why would 200 fps scare anyone at the range? the 300 Win mag is pretty pale compared to the 30-378 and the 300 RUM. The 300 Win is a fine cartridge but just kind of a 30-06 Imp. Same with the 270 and 270 WSM.

Carpmaster 10-16-2006 04:59 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
It is a great round and if you handload you can do some cool things with it....I would be confident with one and just get my practice time in...

DANTHEHUNTER 10-16-2006 07:12 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Mag Man why on one hand are we weak minded people for buying a .270wsm, then after 200fps it is ok ??? one way or the other brother not riding the fence. This is a good round and has alot of potential. I have killed two deer with mine and it preformed very well.I used 150 grain soft points from winchester. I am getting my dies to load them in this week so I will post the results then.

James B 10-16-2006 09:45 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 
Its an even better deal if you don't reload. I mean that factory WSM loads are 150-200 fps over factory 270 Win loads. In my reloading I can gain some with the 270 Win. over factory loads. You will have a tougher time trying to gain any velocity over factory loaded WSM cartridges.

Most of the factory loaded ammo that I have chronograghed read about 3275 for 130 grainers and right at 3200 for 150 grainers. My most accurate hand load so far has been the 130 grain Sierra Pro-Hunters which grouped half inch but clocked at 3050 fps which I can also reach with the 270 Win. HOWEVER, the WSM is idling at 3050 and the Win version is really straining.

I love them both and as a deer and elk cartridge, I am confident with a good bullet in either.

Garminator 10-16-2006 10:33 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 

ORIGINAL: Magnum_Man_300

There are no pros to any of the short mags, they are simply for weak minded people who have fallen victim to this massive scam by Winchester and who obviously have no ballistic knowledge to begin with. Please go with the long action 270 you will save a lot of money and time trying to find ammo.
Listen Magnum Wiener...before you pass judgement on anyone here, you need to get YOUR FACTS straight!!!!...what's it to you what I or anyone else shoot?..worry about yourself punk!!!!

ipscshooter 10-16-2006 10:47 AM

RE: 270 WSM
 

ORIGINAL: Garminator


ORIGINAL: Magnum_Man_300

There are no pros to any of the short mags, they are simply for weak minded people who have fallen victim to this massive scam by Winchester and who obviously have no ballistic knowledge to begin with. Please go with the long action 270 you will save a lot of money and time trying to find ammo.
Listen Magnum Wiener...before you pass judgement on anyone here, you need to get YOUR FACTS straight!!!!...what's it to you what I or anyone else shoot?..worry about yourself punk!!!!
I think if you've followed Magnum Man's posts in the past, you would realize he said that "tongue-in-cheek."

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triggerhappy 10-16-2006 03:48 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I have a stable of many....I love my rifles!!! I have a 300wsm and a 270wsm. I have used the 270wsm for about five years now and it has become my "go to" rifle. It has worked quite nicley on whitetail, muledeer, and pronghorn. Longest shot was 320 yards in 05 to take a pronghorn. It is a fine operating rifle in the winchester model 70 featherweight configuration and seems to like most everything I feed it. I have seen ammo in nearly every Walmart I have I been in. Besides I have never had to buy any ammo when out in the field. Just go prepared.

Buy what makes you happy. There are many fine cartridges that will get it done for you.

James B 10-16-2006 04:08 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I was not speaking to you about the 300 RUM I was just saying that if bigger is always better then where does that line of thinking end. I have said that I used the 300 Weatherby and 300 Win Mag both for deer. Having done so, I know that they are WAY more gun than I NEED FOR DEER. I have also said that the 300 Win Mag is a good all around rifle if you don't mind the recoil. The 270 WSM falls into a big group of rifles that are very good for deer hunting. If I had a favorite over many years for deer, it would be the 6.5 x55 Mauser.

I also have a 30-06 AI built on a Mauser action and with the right loads, it will equal both of 300 Win Mags that I had. The 30-06 AI will offer a 100-300 fps gain over the standard 30-06. Mine has a 26 inch barrel. I have had several AI versions in other calibers, some had good velocity gains after the conversion and some gained nothing at all. Its a rifle by rifle propisition. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

cpsniper05 10-16-2006 10:44 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 

ORIGINAL: Magnum_Man_300


ORIGINAL: Garminator


ORIGINAL: Magnum_Man_300

There are no pros to any of the short mags, they are simply for weak minded people who have fallen victim to this massive scam by Winchester and who obviously have no ballistic knowledge to begin with. Please go with the long action 270 you will save a lot of money and time trying to find ammo.
Listen Magnum Wiener...before you pass judgement on anyone here, you need to get YOUR FACTS straight!!!!...what's it to you what I or anyone else shoot?..worry about yourself punk!!!!
Garminator, I suggest you strongly consider what you have posted, because if you really feel that way, then I believe you are just some immature little teenager whos mad 'cause someone jumped his beloved deer rifle, and you look like more of a fool thenI could have ever hoped to. And lighten up, I could care less what you shoot, I only said that to get your kinda response and maybe a couple of dirty PM's.

It seems that you are the immature oneby posting things to try to fire people up, this site was not intended to fire people up and stir up arguments, people post questions and comments and others give THEIR opinions on how to answer someone, no need to call people weak minded, IMHO

Not_Magnum_Man_300 10-16-2006 11:02 PM

RE: 270 WSM
 
I know the orignal MM might have problems, but I honestly love the 270 WSM, it rivals the .270 Weatherby ballistically and it is in a short action,also ammo isn't that hard to find either, a great cartridge really.


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