.22-250 vs. .220 Swift
09-14-2006 | 08:44 PM
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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift
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What???? Hey Ranger do you own a 220 Swift? These are varmit rifles and the Swifty is 200'/sec faster that the 22-250 with the 50 to 55 gr bullets. If you are a reloader, the Swift has no peer....none .....nada period. It's like comparing the 30'06 with most other cartridges.......the Swift is just superior. Regards, Rick.
What???? Hey Ranger do you own a 220 Swift? These are varmit rifles and the Swifty is 200'/sec faster that the 22-250 with the 50 to 55 gr bullets. If you are a reloader, the Swift has no peer....none .....nada period. It's like comparing the 30'06 with most other cartridges.......the Swift is just superior. Regards, Rick.
Federal's .220 and .22-250 offerings are about 200 fps apart, but not with 50 or 55 gr. bullets IIRC.
Federal's finest offerings in both calibers are only 200 fps apart and trajectory is less than1 inch apart at 500 yards.
.220 doesn't retain nearly the energy downrange either.
09-15-2006 | 11:54 AM
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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift
Having built quite a few .220 Swifts and .22-250's over the years, I am here to report there isn't much to choose from between them. Although the Swift can be loaded a little faster; if you try to handload it to speeds much above the .22-250, casegrowth and brass life become a significant issue due to the gently sloping case body and shoulder. Load both of them to around 3700 with a 55 gr. bullet and brass life is about the same. Both are capable of very good accuracy.
Within this class of calibers, the best of the lot is the .22-250 Ackley Improved - IMO. A little faster than the hottest Swift load and capable of providing very good brass life due to the superior case design. Or load it down to 3700 and get 20 reloads out of a case without ever having to trim it.
Within this class of calibers, the best of the lot is the .22-250 Ackley Improved - IMO. A little faster than the hottest Swift load and capable of providing very good brass life due to the superior case design. Or load it down to 3700 and get 20 reloads out of a case without ever having to trim it.
09-15-2006 | 02:50 PM
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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift
What are you, some kinda whacko? I didn't realize someone had started a new religion around the 220 Swift. What's next? You gonna try to talk everyone into shaving our heads, snipping our balls, and committing suicide so we can book passage on the mother ship?
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What???? Hey Ranger do you own a 220 Swift? These are varmit rifles and the Swifty is 200'/sec faster that the 22-250 with the 50 to 55 gr bullets. If you are a reloader, the Swift has no peer....none .....nada period. It's like comparing the 30'06 with most other cartridges.......the Swift is just superior. Regards, Rick.
What???? Hey Ranger do you own a 220 Swift? These are varmit rifles and the Swifty is 200'/sec faster that the 22-250 with the 50 to 55 gr bullets. If you are a reloader, the Swift has no peer....none .....nada period. It's like comparing the 30'06 with most other cartridges.......the Swift is just superior. Regards, Rick.
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If you're not hand loading, the 22-250 is best because of commercial ammunition availability. Even with hand loading, the 220 Swift doesn't have any advantages over the 22-250.
If you're not hand loading, the 22-250 is best because of commercial ammunition availability. Even with hand loading, the 220 Swift doesn't have any advantages over the 22-250.
09-15-2006 | 07:54 PM
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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift
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What are you, some kinda whacko? I didn't realize someone had started a new religion around the 220 Swift. What's next? You gonna try to talk everyone into shaving our heads, snipping our balls, and committing suicide so we can book passage on the mother ship?
What are you, some kinda whacko? I didn't realize someone had started a new religion around the 220 Swift. What's next? You gonna try to talk everyone into shaving our heads, snipping our balls, and committing suicide so we can book passage on the mother ship?
09-15-2006 | 08:52 PM
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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift
Had the same decision to make about 10 years ago. A gun nut friend of helped me out.
Put my on a Savage 112 in 22-250 with a 6x24x40 Tasco. Buy going on the low end of things I was able to spend a little lessand get into reloading.
After some trial and error on developing a load, it'sextremely accurate
52 Gr Speer HP, 34 Gr of 4064.
Put my on a Savage 112 in 22-250 with a 6x24x40 Tasco. Buy going on the low end of things I was able to spend a little lessand get into reloading.
After some trial and error on developing a load, it'sextremely accurate
52 Gr Speer HP, 34 Gr of 4064.
09-18-2006 | 05:32 AM
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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift
Don't use those factory ammo charts tell you how a certain cartridge preforms. That is just their stated ammo not what it is capable of. The .220 swift has 3.18cc case capacity while the 22-250 has 2.75 so yes the swift can be loaded hotter then the 250. They are both very good caliburs and both preform well. I have had both and I chose the swift for a number of reasons but the main one wasI love loading for it.It has been the most compared to varmit rifle years. I think if a guy had a .22LR ,.220 swift, 30-06, 45/70 and a 12 guage you would have all the long term ,most talked about , the ones everyone is trying to improve caliburs in the buisness.
Getting back to the subject, There are alot more factory ammo offerings for the 250 , hornaday's 40 vmax rounds are pretty awsome out of the swift, 4200fps while the 250's are 4150fps. I can take that same bullet and push it at 4400fps(Accur 2520 42 grain) loading it on my swift ,but I could only get about 4200fps(Accur 2520 38.5 grain) out of the 250. So there is some useful info for ya not based on the fact I own one or the other.But like I said they are both very good rounds. If you want to know I have a Ruger M77 MKII target .220 swift, andhad that same rifle in 22-250.Good luck !!!!!
Getting back to the subject, There are alot more factory ammo offerings for the 250 , hornaday's 40 vmax rounds are pretty awsome out of the swift, 4200fps while the 250's are 4150fps. I can take that same bullet and push it at 4400fps(Accur 2520 42 grain) loading it on my swift ,but I could only get about 4200fps(Accur 2520 38.5 grain) out of the 250. So there is some useful info for ya not based on the fact I own one or the other.But like I said they are both very good rounds. If you want to know I have a Ruger M77 MKII target .220 swift, andhad that same rifle in 22-250.Good luck !!!!!
The Swift cases also don't seem to last as long as 22.2-50 cases do.
09-18-2006 | 06:38 PM
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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift
I have shot at groundhogs at ranges in excess of 700 yards with my 22-250. If I was a better shot I would of killed them. Its tough to compensate for a gun sighted in at 300 yards if youre not used to it.
The swift doesn't offer enough advantages at theaverage shooters ranges. I use a 55gr. NBT pushed by 39 gr. of H380, a WLP, and Nosler cases. I get about 3500 fps or so.(can't find my chrono sheets)
However, if I found one I liked I would buy a Swift in a heartbeat. Same goes for the .204. I don't need them, probably wouldn't use them much, but I have a empty spot for either or both in my safe. The 22-250 and the swift are fine guns. The 22-250 gets the nod if not reloading.
Good luck and good shooting.
The swift doesn't offer enough advantages at theaverage shooters ranges. I use a 55gr. NBT pushed by 39 gr. of H380, a WLP, and Nosler cases. I get about 3500 fps or so.(can't find my chrono sheets)
However, if I found one I liked I would buy a Swift in a heartbeat. Same goes for the .204. I don't need them, probably wouldn't use them much, but I have a empty spot for either or both in my safe. The 22-250 and the swift are fine guns. The 22-250 gets the nod if not reloading.
Good luck and good shooting.
09-18-2006 | 07:31 PM
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Thank you DANTHEHUNTER. If you read this string, there is only one thing to say....all the posters who bad mouth the 220 Swift have never owned one, never fired one and never run one through a Chrony. I have fired thousands of bullets through my HVA, Shilen barrel Mauser without the slightest "erosion" problem at 4000+ feet per second It is the finestvarmit rifle I have ever owned and at 60 years, I've owned a bunch including 2 250's. See Pic attached.......now there is the ultimate varmit rifle IMHO!
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Don't use those factory ammo charts tell you how a certain cartridge preforms. That is just their stated ammo not what it is capable of. The .220 swift has 3.18cc case capacity while the 22-250 has 2.75 so yes the swift can be loaded hotter then the 250. They are both very good caliburs and both preform well. I have had both and I chose the swift for a number of reasons but the main one wasI love loading for it.It has been the most compared to varmit rifle years. I think if a guy had a .22LR ,.220 swift, 30-06, 45/70 and a 12 guage you would have all the long term ,most talked about , the ones everyone is trying to improve caliburs in the buisness.
Getting back to the subject, There are alot more factory ammo offerings for the 250 , hornaday's 40 vmax rounds are pretty awsome out of the swift, 4200fps while the 250's are 4150fps. I can take that same bullet and push it at 4400fps(Accur 2520 42 grain) loading it on my swift ,but I could only get about 4200fps(Accur 2520 38.5 grain) out of the 250. So there is some useful info for ya not based on the fact I own one or the other.But like I said they are both very good rounds. If you want to know I have a Ruger M77 MKII target .220 swift, andhad that same rifle in 22-250.Good luck !!!!!
Don't use those factory ammo charts tell you how a certain cartridge preforms. That is just their stated ammo not what it is capable of. The .220 swift has 3.18cc case capacity while the 22-250 has 2.75 so yes the swift can be loaded hotter then the 250. They are both very good caliburs and both preform well. I have had both and I chose the swift for a number of reasons but the main one wasI love loading for it.It has been the most compared to varmit rifle years. I think if a guy had a .22LR ,.220 swift, 30-06, 45/70 and a 12 guage you would have all the long term ,most talked about , the ones everyone is trying to improve caliburs in the buisness.
Getting back to the subject, There are alot more factory ammo offerings for the 250 , hornaday's 40 vmax rounds are pretty awsome out of the swift, 4200fps while the 250's are 4150fps. I can take that same bullet and push it at 4400fps(Accur 2520 42 grain) loading it on my swift ,but I could only get about 4200fps(Accur 2520 38.5 grain) out of the 250. So there is some useful info for ya not based on the fact I own one or the other.But like I said they are both very good rounds. If you want to know I have a Ruger M77 MKII target .220 swift, andhad that same rifle in 22-250.Good luck !!!!!
09-18-2006 | 07:44 PM
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RE: .22-250 vs. .220 Swift
Did the swift thing in the 70's with a Ruger M77V.
Not impressed, don't wish for it back at all.
Doing it again I'd go with the 22-250.
The 22-250 is plenty fast enough and got other things going for it.
Kinda find a 223 more useful than either of them-- specialized tools those two are.
Not impressed, don't wish for it back at all.
Doing it again I'd go with the 22-250.
The 22-250 is plenty fast enough and got other things going for it.
Kinda find a 223 more useful than either of them-- specialized tools those two are.