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RE: browning a-bolt
buying a 7mm-08? i know its a great caliber but i think i will stick to my 308win its my favorite caliber and its the best of the best in my opion, the 7mm-08 is great caliber but i dont think it will kill like a 308. as far a energy is better for the 7mm-08, i dont really think energy is a great way of telling killing power... there is many factors in killing power then just energy. it shoots flater? for sure but i bet it cant hit with a 308 just askany one that shoots for a livin.lesswind drift maybe,the 260 rem in alot of cases has better energy thenboth the 7mm-08 and 308 but do i think it is really better,i think no... hers a pic of a moose my unkle shot with a 308 at almost 300 yards with a one shoot to put him down
Information Index Number Cartridge Type W Information Index Number Cartridge Type Weight (grs.) Bullet Style Primer No. Ballistic Coefficient PRA260RA Premier® AccuTip™ 120 AccuTip™ Boat Tail 9 1/2 0.480 PRC260RB Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra 140 Core-Lokt® Ultra Bonded 9 1/2 0.457 R7M082 Remington® Express® 120 Hollow Point 9 1/2 0.343 R7M081 Remington® Express® 140 Pointed Soft Point Core-Lokt® 9 1/2 0.390 PRSC308WA Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 150 Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded 9 1/2 0.435 PRSC308WB Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 165 Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded 9 1/2 0.475 Velocity (ft/sec) Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500 Premier® AccuTip™ 120 AT BT 2890 2697 2512 2334 2163 2000 Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra 140 CLUB 2750 2554 2365 2185 2013 1849 Remington® Express® 120 HP 3000 2725 2467 2223 1992 1778 Remington® Express® 140 PSP CL 2860 2625 2402 2189 1988 1798 Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 150 SSB 2820 2611 2410 2219 2037 1863 Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 165 SSB 2700 2513 2333 2161 1996 1839 Energy (ft-lbs) Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500 Premier® AccuTip™ 120 AT BT 2392 2083 1807 1560 1340 1146 Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra 140 CLUB 2351 2027 1739 1484 1260 1063 Remington® Express® 120 HP 2398 1979 1621 1316 1058 842 Remington® Express® 140 PSP CL 2542 2142 1793 1490 1228 1005 Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 150 SSB 2648 2269 1935 1640 1381 1156 Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 165 SSB 2670 2313 1994 1711 1459 1239 |
RE: browning a-bolt
"The Browning magazine system isn't very well suited for quick changes. They are on a floorplate swing out design, which is a joke if you ask me. The Tikka has a very quick and easy to change out magazine. Spare mags come at a very high cost for each rifle, I believe Brownings are in the 40-50 dollar range and Tikkas are a bit higher and they are harder to come by. "
I dont know what this idiot is talking about, i have a browning a bolt medallion 30-06 and i love it, it only takes me a couple of seconds to change clips and ready to shoot again. it holds 5 in the clip. |
RE: browning a-bolt
I have owned two browning Abolts and one tikka. Both have proven pretty accurate but I would give the edge to the browning. I also think the browing is a more durable design. THe one tikka I did have split the stock after less than 100 rounds. WHen I seeked factory repair they refused to touch it because I had a muzzle brake installed. The muzzle brake had nothing to do with the stock cracking, if anything it should have helped. THe tikka has a pathetic recoil lug system. The browning has a standard recoil lug setup. I also have a lot more faith in steel magazine as opposed to plastic. The brownings have worked flawlessly for me for the last 12 years or so. The boss system really works well also. Given the same price I would always opt for the browning. I just don't care for beretta usa's customer service and the way they handled the tikka / sako recall. To many guns left out there at risk just to save a little publicitiy.
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RE: browning a-bolt
mine shots 1/4 inch groups,just found that out yesterday,with hornady light mag sp 139 grns,i also instaled the sims barrel de-resonator.ishot right inside some else bullet hole at 130 yards,i could do a little better if i had a multi-x retical instead of the firefly retical,its kind of thick, and it kind of hides behind the crosshairs,the small targets that is...o well its a hunting rifle not a target rifle..i am really pleased with its performance..i was getting little over 1 inch with out the sims resonator...its the a-bolt 7mm-08
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RE: browning a-bolt
I own 2 Browning A-bolts, 1 in 270 and the other is a .204 hunter. I love both of these rifles and prefer browning over any other rifle or shotguns. They are accurate, and very well constructed. I also like the finishes to them over alot of the other gun makers. The magazine system IS NOT complicated at all. I like it because it is removable but when in the rifle it is inside to leave nothing sticking out. If anyone says the mags are complicated to use just don't know what they are talking about!! Go for the browning, after you shoot and own one you will be glad that you did!
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RE: browning a-bolt
Some of us do not like to admit this, but most people like clipsbecause it makes road hunting easier to do safely. Let's just be honest - are you really going to carry a double stacked rifle clip in your pants pocket? Don't fall, 'cause you will find out what it's like to leave part of your manhood on the hill. Maybe you were refering to your coat pocket instead - I hope so.
Now that I got the none P.C. stuff out of the way, the assessments regarding the fast change clip insertion of a Browning are spot one. There is nothing quick about them. If memory serves me correctly, Remington does make a version of the Mountian Rifle with quick insert clips, and it is a clean design to. The Brownings have good barrels on them, and you should not have any trouble finding over the counter ammo that will shoot sub MOA groups for you. |
RE: browning a-bolt
The magazine system IS NOT complicated at all. I like it because it is removable but when in the rifle it is inside to leave nothing sticking out. If anyone says the mags are complicated to use just don't know what they are talking about!! |
RE: browning a-bolt
whats the big deal any way???few seconds slower,lol...make the first one count is the way i see it.i have never needed a whole clip to kill any animal....i like everything about my browning..
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RE: browning a-bolt
I think the floor plate looks better then the standard detach mag like on Rem or Tikka.
What are you hunting that the 1st 4 or 5 shots depending on what your rifle holds arent enough that you need a quicker changing clip to get shots 6-10 off. I dont understand why you would need a faster changing clip but I would have to agree that the Rem Mnt Rifleclip or Tikka is faster to change then theBrowning. |
RE: browning a-bolt
My point is that I prefer things to be simple,less likelyto fail.Why make something more complicated than it needs tobe?Actually in many chamberings the magazines only hold three rounds which is almost always more than enough.However if you should for some reason need an extra round,simpler and quicker is better.
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