How much faster is it than there standerd loads?Also does this shell shoot with the trophy bonded bear claw in 180 grain bullet for a 30-06?

BB,

Here are the details for the 165 grain HE TBBC

muzzle velocity - 3,000 fps vs 2,800 fps for conventional
100 yds - 2,730 fps vs 2,540 fps for conventional
200 yds - 2,470 fps vs 2,290 fps for conventional
300 yds - 2,230 fps vs 2,050 fps for conventional
400 yds - 2,000 fps vs 1,830 fps for conventional

Regarding your question on the bullet, it would depend on what grain HE you are getting... If you buy the 180 grain HE TBBC, yes it would be the same as the 180 grain traditional TBBC. I opted to go with the 165 grain HE TBBC for Moose this year because it had the same/better balistics than the 180 grain TBBC up to 200 yards which was far more than I could have even seen a moose where I was hunting.

The only thing to note, and I saw this happen personally, is not to use these HE bullets in semi-automatic rifles. My uncle tried it despite my warning and it jammed up his ejection system.

Good luck

You should just go to the Federal web site and compare their HE load to the same bullet in regular. They will have FPS, Ft. Lbs, and trajectory data you can compare for various distances.

As for how it shoots - you really need to shoot it in your gun to find out. I've tried a couple high energy type factory shells in my Win M70 30-06 and so far none have shot great - not horrible, but just not as tight as regular loads. Like 1.75-2 inches at 100 yards instead of 1-1.25. I've tried Federal HE and Hornaday light magnums.

Just for fun, when you look at the data on their web site, take a look at the power and trajectory the HE delivers at your personal maximum shooting distance and compare to the regular shell with the same bullet. That way you can decide if the HE will actually improve your hunting performance. I'd like to squeeze a tad more down range performance out of my 30-06, but like I said, so far, I haven't found one that works for me. But at fairly conservative ranges, like 200-250 yards (which is really the max I can shoot well), it really doesn't make a difference in my ability to kill a deer or moose, so I've settled on premium-grade but normal energy loads that are accurate in my gun. So the accuracy is more important in my case. I'd use the HE if it was as accurate though because why not have a little more power?

I have chronographed a few HE loads and a couple of light magnum loads and not one has produced the advertised velocity.As well accuracy was generally quite poor with most of these loads.

what's been your experience chrono'ing standard factory loads - are the published data for them reasonably accurate?

It varies with each load and each gun.Some loads haveproduced or even exceededthe posted velocities in certain guns,but most fall short.With the HE and light magnum loads all fell short,some bymuch more than others.

I recently chronyd the 180 Grain Federal HE Nosler partition and 165 Grain Hornady Light Mag SST ammo in my 116 Savage with a 22" barrel. The numbers were pretty good the 180 NP averaged 2865 fps and the LM was at 2976. They were both approx 1.5" groups which pretty much what my gun shoots everything. Icould not chrony any standard loads for comparison.A guy at the range happened to have a chrony and let me shoot a few and measure the velocity.
Gander Mountain had a deal buy one get one free so I have two boxes for $25.00 not a bad deal. I dont think it is still running but I would check. The 165s shot slightly better and I will try them on whitetails soon.