Yea, thats right, why even read a forum period? Right? Just listen to pinto for everything and let him form your opinion for you.

Personally I suspect the majority of the readers are smart enough to determine BS from substance and in most cases a lot more than "us experts" think.

You got that right. I know I usually can. I think itsimportant for folks to gather opinions and trythings for themselves. Like you and I did on this subject. Thats the fun of shooting and guns. Trying new things.

I have learned off alot of people on this forum and not beyond saying, "I sure don't know everything". I have tested out most opinions on forums when it comes to guns, and found out about half are BS, mostly people that have no experience in the matter, just repeating what they heard, but you get a few real gems off this forum. Boy I miss Oldelk.

I believe you have tried this for yourself, and formed your opinion all by yourself.

Years ago I went thru a dozen rifles a month.....not all mine...many was bought to my range as needing work....many needed bedding and others just sighting in.

I tried a lot of "break in" things and in the end just couldn't conclusively say anything about it. This much I can say.....those that went thru the break in practice actually spent time at the range and most new rifles are never exposed to any range.....a few shots off the truck fender and off to the woods hunting.

Those that actually spent time at the range developing loads, working up different loads, getting the bedding right, glass if needed were far better off than the others. There was absolutely no comparison. However any advantage was never conclusively attributed to the break in efforts.

Of the guns I personally own about a third of them actually saw a concerted break in attempt. None of them are measurably better than the others.

Some do and some don't. I own mostly Sakos which do not....but one did! My Tikka 7Mag took about 30 rounds and it was done. Usually working up a good hunting load and matching bullets and powder will do the trick. I clean after 9 rounds at first then use Wipe Out every 20 or so and it's a done deal. If you keep getting alot of copper out of the barrel keep shooting, Wipeouting and brushing with Butch's until it stops. No barrel is perfect and some are better than others IMHO. This is really a common sense thing. Regards, Rick.