August American Rifleman magizane Artical
08-18-2005, 06:27 PM
#11
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bardstown Kentucky USA
Posts: 109
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
Fortunately, gun laws in Kentucky are not quite as restrictive as they apparently are in Michigan. Here, businesses may post a "no guns" sign, but even if they find out you are carrying, all they can do is ask you to leave. There is no legal penalty.
Don't continue to accept your restrictions up there so meekly. The country is slowly waking up to the reality that people have a right to defend themselves, and have the means to do so. Just look at the expansion of the number of states that allow concealed carry and now the movement to pass the so-called "Castle laws" which clarify the rights of a person to defend themselves and their home.
Don't continue to accept your restrictions up there so meekly. The country is slowly waking up to the reality that people have a right to defend themselves, and have the means to do so. Just look at the expansion of the number of states that allow concealed carry and now the movement to pass the so-called "Castle laws" which clarify the rights of a person to defend themselves and their home.
08-19-2005, 01:10 PM
#12
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Evadale, Texas
Posts: 625
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
this happend to a guy who worked at our company in La. he was employed for 30+ years about 2 years away from retireing. they implement the no gun law thursday, the big wigs came down monday, walked past his truck saw the but of the shotty in the back seat. called him to the office and fired him. Its total BULL**** and the is now sueing the company.
08-19-2005, 06:00 PM
#13
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wall SD USA & Jamestown ND
Posts: 11,474
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
Where my wife works, you can be fired on the spot if you have a gun OR ANY AMMO in your car in their parking lot. It is their property however so they set the rules.
08-20-2005, 06:27 AM
#14
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bardstown Kentucky USA
Posts: 109
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
ORIGINAL: James B
Where my wife works, you can be fired on the spot if you have a gun OR ANY AMMO in your car in their parking lot. It is their property however so they set the rules.
Where my wife works, you can be fired on the spot if you have a gun OR ANY AMMO in your car in their parking lot. It is their property however so they set the rules.
08-20-2005, 11:40 AM
#15
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: North West Arkansas
Posts: 422
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
Just FYI....Wal-Mart general office complex in Bentonville, AR has the same no firearms on company property rule. Note even allowed in your own car in their parking lots.
I don't work for them anymore, and I didn't really like the rule when I did. Made it awfully inconvenient if you were planning to go out after work for some hunting or shooting.
However, like others have said...it is their property and they should have some say so as to whats allowed on their property or not.
firstshot
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Make your first shot count!
I don't work for them anymore, and I didn't really like the rule when I did. Made it awfully inconvenient if you were planning to go out after work for some hunting or shooting.
However, like others have said...it is their property and they should have some say so as to whats allowed on their property or not.
firstshot
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Make your first shot count!
08-20-2005, 12:50 PM
#16
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bardstown Kentucky USA
Posts: 109
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
ORIGINAL: firstshot
Just FYI....Wal-Mart general office complex in Bentonville, AR has the same no firearms on company property rule. Note even allowed in your own car in their parking lots.
I don't work for them anymore, and I didn't really like the rule when I did. Made it awfully inconvenient if you were planning to go out after work for some hunting or shooting.
However, like others have said...it is their property and they should have some say so as to whats allowed on their property or not.
firstshot
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Make your first shot count!
Just FYI....Wal-Mart general office complex in Bentonville, AR has the same no firearms on company property rule. Note even allowed in your own car in their parking lots.
I don't work for them anymore, and I didn't really like the rule when I did. Made it awfully inconvenient if you were planning to go out after work for some hunting or shooting.
However, like others have said...it is their property and they should have some say so as to whats allowed on their property or not.
firstshot
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Make your first shot count!
08-20-2005, 02:47 PM
#17
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: WC FL
Posts: 26,323
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
Doc, they may not have the right, but they can sure make you spend alot
of cash to prove it. Any lawyer will encourge you to prove it! He is going
to make Mucho money on your behalf.
of cash to prove it. Any lawyer will encourge you to prove it! He is going
to make Mucho money on your behalf.
08-21-2005, 01:17 PM
#18
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bardstown Kentucky USA
Posts: 109
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog
Doc, they may not have the right, but they can sure make you spend alot
of cash to prove it. Any lawyer will encourge you to prove it! He is going
to make Mucho money on your behalf.
Doc, they may not have the right, but they can sure make you spend alot
of cash to prove it. Any lawyer will encourge you to prove it! He is going
to make Mucho money on your behalf.
08-21-2005, 01:34 PM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Western Nebraska
Posts: 3,393
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
It even requires a search warrant for the police to search your vehicle
Where I worked once such a policy was in force but several of us managers shot trap on Monday nights after work and some drove 30 miles to work. We all had our trap guns in our cars in hard cases and not visible. The HR manager asked if I had a gun in my car and I simply informed her that she needed a search warrant to find out. None was ever achieved.
Some dumb asses continued to come to work with their hunting guns in full display in the rear window of their pickup. Sorry folks....that's asking for a confrontation.....and they lost!!!
08-21-2005, 02:12 PM
#20
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
Posts: 6,270
RE: August American Rifleman magizane Artical
ORIGINAL: jrbsr
In the August American Rifleman magizane page 52 theres a artical,
Where Big companys are wanting to fire there employees.
For having guns in there locked cars and trucks while on the,
Company property.
NRA guns for rights violators By Gene Mueller August 10, 2005
Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, says he will spare no expense or effort to expose energy giant ConocoPhillips for its anti-Second Amendment stance.
Look for billboard advertising soon that says as much. An NRA-sponsored national boycott campaign against ConocoPhillips also will begin.
The sparks flew after LaPierre spoke at a rally in Idabel, Okla., to support employees fired by the Weyerhaeuser Co. because they kept legally owned firearms stored in their locked vehicles in a company parking lot that was publicly accessible. Since the firings, the Oklahoma Legislature has passed a bill to prevent such terminations, but ConocoPhillips filed a federal lawsuit to block the protective measure.
In the August American Rifleman magizane page 52 theres a artical,
Where Big companys are wanting to fire there employees.
For having guns in there locked cars and trucks while on the,
Company property.
NRA guns for rights violators By Gene Mueller August 10, 2005
Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, says he will spare no expense or effort to expose energy giant ConocoPhillips for its anti-Second Amendment stance.
Look for billboard advertising soon that says as much. An NRA-sponsored national boycott campaign against ConocoPhillips also will begin.
The sparks flew after LaPierre spoke at a rally in Idabel, Okla., to support employees fired by the Weyerhaeuser Co. because they kept legally owned firearms stored in their locked vehicles in a company parking lot that was publicly accessible. Since the firings, the Oklahoma Legislature has passed a bill to prevent such terminations, but ConocoPhillips filed a federal lawsuit to block the protective measure.
I suspect that the final answer will be that they do indeed have such a right, since you do too! Every property owner has a right to prohibit firearms from being brought onto his or her property.
I personally see nothing wrong with letting your employees keep unloaded guns in the trunks of their vehicles when at work, (when I was in the Army, for over 30 years, I usually had one or more guns around!!) but some employers have policies against this practice! IF you display your guns in plain sight in an unoccupied vehicle, you are inviting some S.O.B. to steal same!!
The good ol' NRA is not adverse to using a little spin (read "propaganda") once in a while, just like the anti-gun folks do!