Well, I guess I was a little strong with my statements.....hope I didn't offend anyone.....just wanted to put my .02 cents worth, since I own one of these guns. In my opinion, they are excellent. They are very accurate and I think the BOSS a wonderful implement that does reduce recoil. It also does significantly increase the noise of the gun as it is fired. Please use at your own risk.

I hope the above statement was as namby pamby politically correct as possible so as to avoid offending anyone here.

I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV, and Idid notstay at the Holiday Inn Express last night.

I am not an expert on anything, once again, I am simply an acutal owner of something for which information has been requested.

I was surprisedat the replies of folks who don't own one of these guns and feel free to state that they hate them. Every gun is different, and the gun you had 20 years ago or in some cases 40 years ago was different and is different than any other gun. I comment only on my gun, period.

If you do own one, and you hate it, by all means reply with all your hatredand fury!!! Blast away. Some here have seen fit to do that. That is there opinion, as this is mine. They are fully entitled to comment negativey, about the product requested, since they actually have the experience to back it up.

I am not a retired person with nothing better to do than go to the range everyday or sit in my basement looking at reloading equipment - that is still 15 years in my future. My shooting consists of probably what an averagehunter will do - maybe "slightly more".
My stereo may be too loud for most of you.

I'll concede the point that exposure to "gunfire" of any type will damage your hearing and might be able to do it with one shot - although I doubt the one shot thing. Once again, please don't shoot anything without muffs - you would't want to end up like that others guys buddy...and I'm not advocating that you do so.

The first time I shot my Glock 17 9mm - stupidly in college - without muffs - on the way home, I thought my car stereo was broken because the music sounded slowed and the announcer slurred. Nope, just a problem with my hearing due to exposure to 50 shots. Hearing came back - common sense must have also came back - never shot wihout muffs again unless hunting.

I am acting my age - 36 thanks - by responding to the information request I read by the original poster.I did not see a complete set of responses, so I responded. Ifreely admit that I flamed a number of posters on this thread, since blanket statements about any product rarely "cover" anything correctly. My statements are mine alone and not a review of anything. Just my experiences.

Please use common sense. I wear hearing protection when shooting at the range, Iuse plugs and muffs together. I hate the report and recoil of the gun because it make me flinch, which doesn't help me hit my target. I just get so used to shooting the rifle with the protection, that during the hunting seasons, it comes natural to shoot that same way even without the protection. For the record, I fire an average of 7 rounds during the month long WV hunting seasons and ususally kill 3-4 deer with those shots. I dont feel that 7 unmuffed shots is abusive to my ears, especially considering that the guys in the next valley are lighting it up with the remigton semi autos all the time. I usually work up about three laods to test each year using 150 or 140g bullets of various makes. I then load 30 rounds of that ammo for the hunting season.

Finally, the comment was made that having the BOSS does introduce extra variables into an already complicated reloading bench. This is absolutlety true - and sometimes frustrating. I had never considered it until now, but it is sometimes a PITA!!! I also muzzle loader hunt and I run into those variables there as well, so I guess I just like to tinker.

There is no need to bow towards WV for any reason. I am not a know it all. I am a know it some. It just so happened that what the guy asked about - I actually knew about personally. You may ask another million questions that I havent got a clue about.

Here is a quote from chuckhawks website.

Here is a link that gives actual noise levels resultingfrom gunfire.

http://www.freehearingtest.com/hia_gunfirenoise.shtml

Here is another interesting link

http://www.sengpielaudio.com/TableOfSoundPressureLevels.htm


Notice that an increase of 10dba from 130dba to 140dba more thantriples the sound pressure.Therefore increasing the noise by only a few decibles greatly increases the danger of hearing damage.

Thanks Stubble, I will save it!

Encrepete,
actually my buddy who suffered major damage always wears muffs and plugs when at the range. Something I have always done also. His damage was done from shooting at game only without protection. He also owns a .270 browning Abolt that has the Boss on it. I have personally seen that rifle shoot onder 7/16" several times once he found the sweet spot. Not saying that the Boss is not effective, it works great although it does it while destroying hearing. Hey some people smoke and won't believe it will harm them. Enjoy yourself

Wow, that is some interesting information.....

My ears rings for a few seconds after shots, but I can hear and talk. The ringing subsides in less than 30 seconds or so. Same effect as when my buddy cracked off the Ruger M77 30.06. I'm surprised that your friend suffered from just shooting at game, that sounds unusual to me, but I'm not in a position to doubt your word.

I am always careful with hearing protection - I wear it in the parking lot of the range when I get there - it's an outdoor range. The plugs or muffs by themselves have never been enough for me - I have to wear both. I now use the plugs with the electonic muffs - they work pretty well. I even wear this setup while shooting my pistols at qualifications.

I would think that if recoil was not a factor on a rifle, that the CR (conventional recoil) version, which is said to be supplied with all the new BOSS riflesnow, would assist is barrel tuning, without the additional noise.

I know some people who use the boss attachment while at the range,for the big caliber shoulder pounders,and then when hunting change to the conventional recoil attachment.They have not found there to be significant accuracy difference's and they accomplish what they want to accomplish.
As previously stated I have a .270 a-bolt that came with both attachments,I wasn't concerned about recoil so I have never shot my rifle with the boss on it only the CR.I don't as of yet hand load and was frustrated by the out of the box accuracy I was experiencing with other rifles,so the ability to use a bullet that I wished to and adjust the gun to the bullet instead of the other way around appealed to me.It still does!

That would imply to me that the Bossisn'teffecting hisaccuracy at all.
There is no way to guarantee that the barrel harmonics would be equal with two different boss's set at an "equal" setting,( of course tuning the barrel harmonics is whole idea behind theBoss.,right?).
His other choice would be to chose a ramdom setting when using his CR in hopes of matching the ported Boss's performance in which case any accuracy correlation would be exactly that, random.
This just implies he has an accurate gun, and at best the Boss isn't screwing it up.

My assumption is that the cr attachment would also be shot at the range to see if in fact it was very similar in group placement to the boss attachment.If it isn't than of course that is not acceptable.In that case a simple solution is shoot the cr attachment only as I do but use a rifle rest that absorbs the recoil of the rifle instead of your shoulder,like the lead sled or others that accomplish the same thing.

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but the BOSS system has nothing to do with recoil. Yes you can get one with a muzzle break, but you can get it without as well. So the question you should be asking is should you get a rifle with a muzzle break on it. Yes they are louder, but they also considerably reduce recoil on some rifles. The more recoil, the better the system seems to work.

However the boss system is designed to fine tune the harmonics on your barrel by adjusting the weight on the end of the barrel. This negates having to try several different brands of ammo and often handloading. Since all you are doing is finding a load that best works with your barrel harmonics. With this system you can pick any brand and load you want that fits your needs and tune the barrel to the load, not the other way around. It's sort of like tuning a bow to an arrow vrs buying several different types of arrow or messing with arrow length.

I have a friend that has two of these Boss systems. He swears by them and couldn't be happier. I have also seen the video produced by Browning and was pretty impressed. My buddy said his results were the same.

As far as losing velocity, I doubt you lose much. It becomes a point of diminishing returns after a while so the only way would really know is test one with a compensator and one without it to see what the differences are. Just using a compensator may reduce velocity regardless of barrel length. If you get the version without the recoil reducer it should not be an issue, the barrel length should be the same. I highly doubt the slight difference would effect the bullet trajectory or down range performance any way. This is sort of like arguing about 10 fps on a bow. You will never see the difference any way unless you use a chrono. In the real world you will not not notice at all.

I think brownings are great guns, I wish I could afford one.

Paul

Tocs...that makes sense...