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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
I actually find moose easier to kill than elk.They may not drop at the shot,but they seldom go far after being hit properly.They usually bed down very quickly or stand on the spot until they drop.
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
ORIGINAL: 48thguns they are close but the '06 is king for a reason. I hate paper tables cause they don't mean squat, however, lets look at the 175/165 gr comparisons by Mr Hornady.....OBTW, I own a 7 mag Tikka and a number of Sako '06's...... 7mag..175 gr sp.....2800'/sec ( a wee bit of a stretch) 0 at 200, -7.7 at 300, -22.7 at 400. energy.....2656/100, 2308/200, /1999/300, 1726/400....darn good. '06.. 165gr btsp.....2900'/sec...(a wee wee stretch) 0 at 200, -7.3 at 300, -21.4 at 400. energy.....2655 at 100, 2276 at 200, 1944 at 300, 1655 at 400. Well, there goes the flatter theory....Gosh, they sure seem to be about even don't they? I like 'um both for elk and deer....both great cartridges. But remember...age before beauty and the 7 mag loves lots of powder!!! :DRegards, Rick. |
RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
both are good big game calibers, but the 06 has alot more bullet choices,especially in the heavies.
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
I agree flip a coin, both are up to the task with the proper bullet employed. I personally use a 7mm rem mag and have had no problems harvesting either moose or elk.
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
ORIGINAL: Hunter4life81 Which is better for elk/moose at the range of 250-400 yards?????? P.S. i feel like i am always asking this ?i think the 7mag is better for taht kinda game but he thinks the 30-06 is better!!!!!!!!!!?????????? but me and a friend of mine got into an argument over this and now i wanna c what other people have to say about this situation. P.S.S. I would get a 300wm/wby but i can't handle the recoil of that gun jsut yet. If you want a .30 caliber rifle round, choose either the .300 WBY, .300 Rem ultra mag or better yet, the .30-378. |
RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
Probably isn't a definite need, but why not the 30-06? cheaper bullets anyways. there isn't a need for a lot of the calibers...and newer isn't necessarily better.
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
ORIGINAL: UThunter but why not the 30-06? cheaper bullets anyways. |
RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
Thats is what i meant, just used the wrong word, thanks.
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
I appear to be in the minority but would go 06 for one simple reason"case efficiency." The 06 does have a smaller case than the 7MM but it uses the available energy more efficiently for example if you reload:
Muzzle400 Yards Energy 3500 FT/LBS 2066 Velocity 3091FPS2375 Drop @MBBR0 12.8 Optimal Game Wt1207 LBS547 The above is from the Barnes Reloading manual for the165 Grain XLC with max 62 grains IMR 4381 load. If you don't reload: Muzzle 400 YDS Energy3330FT/LBS1805 Velocity 3015 FPS2220 Drop @ MPBR 29615.1 Optimum Game WT1119 447 The above is Hornady Light Magnum ammo with 165 Grain Interbond bullets. Despite the smaller case capacity I challenge anyone to match this performance with a handload or factory load using 7MM Remmington Mag. Keep in mind you will get this performance with less recoil due to the case efficiency andlower power charge. PS: Matching the Section density of two different diamater bullets to get a fair comparison is not valid. The 30 caliber bullet will have far more mass and strike with far greater energy when driven at equvilent speeds. The Optimal Game Weight found in many ballisticts calculators is anbetter means of comparing two rounds terminal performance. 99 years ago someone knew what they were doing when this case was developed. |
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