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Icedragon 06-11-2005 06:24 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 
The 06 has plenty of knockdown power and can go long distances.

48thguns 06-11-2005 07:14 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 
they are close but the '06 is king for a reason. I hate paper tables cause they don't mean squat, however, lets look at the 175/165 gr comparisons by Mr Hornady.....OBTW, I own a 7 mag Tikka and a number of Sako '06's......

7mag..175 gr sp.....2800'/sec ( a wee bit of a stretch) 0 at 200, -7.7 at 300, -22.7 at 400.
energy.....2656/100, 2308/200, /1999/300, 1726/400....darn good.

'06.. 165gr btsp.....2900'/sec...(a wee wee stretch) 0 at 200, -7.3 at 300, -21.4 at 400.
energy.....2655 at 100, 2276 at 200, 1944 at 300, 1655 at 400.

Well, there goes the flatter theory....Gosh, they sure seem to be about even don't they? I like 'um both for elk and deer....both great cartridges. But remember...age before beauty and the 7 mag loves lots of powder!!! :DRegards, Rick.

FastShootingCarts 06-11-2005 07:39 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 

ORIGINAL: handloader1

Their preformance is so close it's almost not worth the argument. [&:][&:] Good luck.

You're right. Not worth an argument but rather a discussion of the two carts. I shot both and would prefer a 7mm mag over a .30-06 in the field anyday. Just my opinion of course.

FastShootingCarts 06-11-2005 07:48 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 

ORIGINAL: 48thguns

they are close but the '06 is king for a reason. I hate paper tables cause they don't mean squat, however, lets look at the 175/165 gr comparisons by Mr Hornady.....OBTW, I own a 7 mag Tikka and a number of Sako '06's......

7mag..175 gr sp.....2800'/sec ( a wee bit of a stretch) 0 at 200, -7.7 at 300, -22.7 at 400.
energy.....2656/100, 2308/200, /1999/300, 1726/400....darn good.

'06.. 165gr btsp.....2900'/sec...(a wee wee stretch) 0 at 200, -7.3 at 300, -21.4 at 400.
energy.....2655 at 100, 2276 at 200, 1944 at 300, 1655 at 400.

Well, there goes the flatter theory....Gosh, they sure seem to be about even don't they? I like 'um both for elk and deer....both great cartridges. But remember...age before beauty and the 7 mag loves lots of powder!!! :DRegards, Rick.
Those stats sure do look close. What rifle was used and what powders for the loads. Do you have that info? Was the boat tail load as accurate as the 7mm soft point?

bigbulls 06-11-2005 08:25 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 
Those numbers look to be close but they are misleading. Being that a 7mm bore is smaller than a 30 bore you have to compare bullets of different weights but similar lengths and BC numbers.

The larger the bore the faster the same weight bullet can be driven with the same case.

If you want to do a fair comparison when useing a 175 grain bullet out of a 7mm bore then you would need to choose a 200 grain bullet for the 30-06. A much fairer comparison between the two would be a 180 grain 30 caliber bullet and a 160 grain 7mm bullet. They have similar lengths, similar BC numbers, and similar SD numbers.

Gundigest 06-11-2005 08:28 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 
Both would work fine but if I was hunting 1000+ pound moose I would rather have the 30-06.

James B 06-11-2005 08:31 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 
Just exactly what I was thinking.. But close they are. I would go with the 06 because I have complete confidence in it.

TerryM 06-11-2005 09:29 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 
I have owned both and killed moose with both. Flip a coin. I use the 7mmrem mag because its a little flatter shooting and with good loads develops a bit more energy than an 06. The moose don't seem to know the difference.

FastShootingCarts 06-11-2005 10:38 PM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 

ORIGINAL: Gundigest

Both would work fine but if I was hunting 1000+ pound moose I would rather have the 30-06.

1000+ pound moose? I think I would step it up a bit there.

TerryM 06-12-2005 08:13 AM

RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
 

1000+ pound moose? I think I would step it up a bit there.
Moose are not hard to kill. Almost like shooting a hole in a truck tire, just wait for the air to come out.


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