RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

ILoveto4X4,
I' ll tell you why I don' t like the Rem 710. As I posted in the " guns" forum to answer another member' s post on this very topic, I have always trusted the Remington name and I bought a 710 in 30-06 soon after it came out, almost two years ago. The bolt issue that you described can be dealt with as long as you keep it lubricated, but the trigger is COMPLETE JUNK. When the trigger is squeezed, the trigger creap is horrible and unsmooth. I have contacted Remington about this issue and have sent it to their authorized repair shop TWICE to no avail. The gunsmiths were friendly, but they are not permitted to perform adjustments to the sear engagement, which is where the true problem lies. Now that I' ve clearly done everything possible to correct my gun' s problem, I' m doing what I can to trade it in for a higher quality rifle. I wish I had never laid eyes on my 710. For the minimal amount of extra money, any true hunter should slap down the extra hundred bucks or so and buy an ADL with a comparable scope.

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

A friend recently bought a 700 ADL in 243 win and when he went to sight it in he found it had 9.5 lbs of trigger pull . He took it back to the dealer where he bought it and the dealer said they couldn' t adjust the trigger ,he would have to send it in to be worked on . If this is an example of Remington quality control I don' t think I would buy either one of them . My friend sold the Remington and bought a Ruger 77 Mark II stainless .

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

ok guys, I guess I' ll join the oddball group on this one. I just bought one, and its not my first rifle. Prior to this I hunted w/ a savage lever action 308, and my winchester model 70 carbine in -30-06. I have also hunted w/ a ruger bolt action 243 of my uncles and have shot those 3 rifles quite a bit. I' ve also handled and plinked a few rounds through varriouse guns of friends and family. Anyway I bought the remington 710 cause I' m a college student on a budget. Am I planning on keeping this gun forever and ever? doubt it. The reason I bought it is cause I can upgrade guns and try out different calibers, etc down the line and still keep this gun or whatever cause for 300 bucks if I get a few years out of it it owes me nothing. In the store the action did feel a little stiff, but it was also bone dry. When I brought mine home the 1st thing I did was oiled the contact points, loosened it up and the action is totaly fine to my standards, besides how many times do you think about how smooth the action is when your squeezing one off into the kill zone on nice buck?. Its totaly somthing you can live with in my opinion. I dunno, maybe its all in a persons definition of junk. Theres going to be a few factory defects out there, thats what a warrantee is for. To tell ya the truth I was real happy with the gun until I came on here for the heck of it and started reading this stuff, then I was like, screw it, its fine for me.
I dunno, some people have to have rolexes and cadilacs, a timex tells time too and a tahoe is just an excalade w/out the body kit

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

So let me get this straight...

You bought the 710 because you are on a tight budget. That' s $350. However, in a couple of years, you will ditch it (I guess you will throw it away, as no one will ever buy one used) and buy a new " better" gun (let' s say $800 for rifle and scope).

That' s at least $1150 total.

On the other hand, you can go to Wal-Mart, Academy, Bass Pro, Cabela' s (you get the picture) and get a 700 ADL (wood or synthetic) or a Savage (wood or synthetic), slap a nice Nikon or lower end Leupold on top for about $600-$700.

That' s at least a $450 difference.

And you are worried about money.

I bought a Browning A-Bolt composite stalker in March and payed about $800 when finished. I' ll have it the rest of my life with no problems. I' m still $350 up on you.

I don' t see the logic in buying a gun you know will be replaced ASAP.

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

k, didn' t make myself clear I guess. I bought it cause for what I' m doing now it fits the bill, I wanted an economical 30-06 bolt action rifle. In a couple of years I' ll have a REAL job and be out of school, in a couple of years I' ll probobly have a bigger cabinet of guns than I currently do, so if I buy a high end gun in a couple years it will probobly mean I' m not on a tight budget, also I' m not worried about buying a gun to hunt with for the rest oif my life, cause in reality I' ll hunt with more than one gun for the rest of my life, I had a cherry model 70, hunted with it for 3 years then sold it when it was worth more to someone else than it was to me.
I was real close to buying a weatherby vangaurd, but when it came down to it $500.00 for the rifle and another 2 for a scope didn' t make sence when I could get a rifle and scope for 330.00 that were as capable as the bottom line weatherby and keep atleast 300 bucks in my pocket. If this gun falls apart down the line I' ll be the 1st to let ya know, but like everthing else people talk $&!* about the instances of product failure or defect are limited to a small quantity of the product that gets more attention than it is deserves, happens all the time w/ everything in the market place. I' ve always heard bad things about dodge transmissions but of the many people I know who have a dodge I don' t know anyone whos had any severe tranny problems. In this instance I don' t see any problems with this gun, just alot of complaints from people who mostly don' t own em and heard from a friend who' s uncles brother inlaw had some incredible mishap.
For a gun that isn' t worth the plastic its molded out of I had no problems shooting a 3/4 group this afternoon. darn, what a POS.

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

I hate to tell you this, but you can get the Vanguard for a whole lot less money than 500.00!! And it' s not really their " lower end gun" . It' s made by Howa, and it is one of the best guns for the money you can get. Spend 350.00 for the gun, and another 199.00 for a good scope, and you' d have a much better gun, period. As far as a " bunch of people who don' t own one......" goes, there' s a reason for that. It' s because they know a POS when they see it.

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

Amen Danny.

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

Sorry, didn' t know that a good gun had to look good and be expensive, I always thought a good gun was one that shot accuratly consistently, which is what this gun does, thats a point you can' t argue.
As for the vanguard thats the sticker price around here, 499. The one I was going to buy was on sale at gander mountain and had a 3x9 leopold mounted on it for 600 bucks with a sling. I' ve heard of guys getting em for around 400 bucks but I havn' t seen it first hand around here. 350 sounds like the price they' d offer you if you buy 10 guns a year from em or own the shop, not what the average joe is going to be able to pick one up for. And why isn' t it their lower end gun? to my understanding its the bottom dollar you can pay to get somthing with " weatherby" stamped on the barrel, as little as it means. Please correct me if I' m wrong.
For 400+ I' m sure you can buy a " good" gun, and for another 200 put a leopold on and for 600+ rings and tax you' d have a " better" gun. But for 330 you could buy a 710 w/ a bushnell mounted on it and be shooting just as good as your " better" gun so wheres the advantage? I can go buy a " good" portable stand, steps, and a grunt call or whatever and probobly still spend less for all that and my gun than you did for a " better" gun. Does it matter? Not really, I won' t change your mind and you won' t change mine, one thing I' m glad of is that I didn' t start reading this forum before I bought my gun because stuff like this would have kept me from even looking at the 710, but as far as I' m concerned it seems like a good gun for the money and a good option for someone new to hunting and on a budget or whatever the case may be.

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

tikka t3 is sweet for the money

RE: Rem 700 ADL or 710 ???
 

I do not own a 710.I have however fired a friends 710 that he bought to save money.It shot reasonably well averaging 1-1/2" at 100 yards.However the action was so rough that it might as well be a single shot because it was so hard to cycle at any speed.The trigger was also the worst that I have used on a bolt action and felt like a new remington semi auto or pump action trigger.Yes he did save a little money but for an extra $100 he could have had a howa which would have been well worth the extra money.