OEH, Yep TL isn' t want it use to be when Bob Hice owned and operated it. I sent my Levelers back May 14(+-) and haven' t heard a thing. I emailed them last Saturday and haven' t even received a reply back.I asked for a refund.It' s doubtful I' ll get it but it' s worth a try.I mentioned if they won' t give me a refund please replace them with two new ones.TL better wake up before they become part of History.They have allot of competition nowdays.
Ruger Redhawk

Ruger, you know I am looking into the New OldMan climber...it is made of titanium and weighs about 14 lbs...that would be a great treestand...What do you think?

OEH, I heard of the titanium Old Man' s just the other day on another site.Sounds like the ticket.Titanium is used in the space program because of the weight and strength. It should work well with a climber.I imagine these Titanium stands prices are going to be very expensive.I' ve never used any of the Old Man' s but allot of people swear by them.If you get one let me know how you like it.I think the Gunslinger will work out well once I get use to facing the tree.
Ruger Redhawk