cooper_m22

Yes I am new here and would like to say HI.
I all ready have A cooper model 22 in a 308 and love it but I would like to get me one more Cooper a Model 52 Jackson Game Rifle. What do you think? I all so need some help can not make up my mind 25-06 or 280 rim which one.

http://cooperfirearms.com/rifles.php?rifle_name=jg52&cal=280

bugsNbows

I just got one a few months ago. It's the Jackson Hunter in 25-06. It's the stainless / synthetic model. Originally I had a purdy wooden stocked one (with upgrades), but I changed the order to this one. Now I won't have to worry about scratches and dings, and it won't become a safe queen either. Scoped with a Swaro AV, the gun is AWESOME. Very good workmanship. I LOVE IT!!! Looks good...feels good. I just may have to save up and get another. BTW, welcome to the site.

salukipv1

In that model I'd say .25-06 or maybe .270?

though if you reload....how about 6.5-284?

doubleA

Cooper makes some nice rifles, you wont be didsappointed in the M52.


NOTE: As of right now, the M52 is only available in 30-06 based cartridges. The 6.5x284 would have to be in the SS M22.

cooper_m22

Thank you for the Reply's.
bugsNbows I have been looking at the Jackson Hunter just for the same reason you got your's. I was looking in to some upgrades to.

salukipv1' I do some reloading but mainly on weatherby loads, part of me has beenlooking in togoing with a280 Ackley Improved so I will have to reload, but that is one cartridge I don't no to much about.

What do you guys thank of the 280 AI.

It looks like right now I am going to go with a25-06. but I don't no I just wish I had the money to buy one in every caliber. But my wife would kill me.
I no if this M52 is as good as my M22 I will be very Happy

Thank you again.

salukipv1

I don't have a 6.5mm-284, but if I reloaded I think it may be the 1st I bought....its a very popular benchrest round.....superbly accurate and being a 6.5mm you could load it across the board up to 160grs or so, and since you said .25-06 and .280AI.....it's right in that range....

If you plan to reload the 280AI anyway....granted you can fireform brass etc...but you're still reloading you may want to look into the 6.5-284. I know its getting more and more popular too and perhaps somenoe will eventually load it.....

I hear ya about wanting 1 of everything....but then again I'd rather have a few awesome rifles vs. a bunch of junk. Going with a Cooper I suspect you're thinking along similar lines....

I just noticedwhen I checked out Cooper's site that theyloaded the 6.5-284 so thats why it caught my eye.

So being inherently accurate and in a quality rifle, I dare say it'll outshoot the other 2, though all 3 would should well I'm sure, and having the variety of 6.5mm bullets.....you could hunt light or heavy....as light as the .25-06 or as heavy as the .280....

salukipv1

PS- did you say you're looking to do some upgrades to it? ie remove/replace the stock? why not get what you want from the get go from them? if this is the case?

cooper_m22

salukipv1 I am like you about the junk guns, I went there and will never go there again,to me youget what you pay for.

No, I am looking in to some upgrades from cooper when I order my gun. I am trying to figure out right nowif I should go with a fluted barrel or not.

I did not no the 6.5-284 came in the M52, I no it comes in the M22, I am going on over to cooper site and check it out. If I can get it in the M52 what would be a good twist rate for the 6.5-284. Because I may go with a custom twist rate on a 25-06 if I go that way.

salukipv1

Not sure the 52 chambers it....but i know "cooper" chambers it. haven't compared the details.....but i assume they make a model you'd like that would chamber it....maybe not.

as far as twist rates, I'm unsure....the target/reloading guys might know more.....

looks like if you wanted to shoot up to 160grs you want a 1:8
if 140grs....1:9
120grs....1:10


they also list a 85gr at 1:12, so wow 85grs up to 160grs....
http://www.riflebarrels.com/products/caliber_twist_rates.htm

if I had one I think I'd stick to 120-160grs....so probably get an 8 or 9 twist....probably an 8 since from what I know is its easier to go light than to go heavy....

Looks like the "Jackson Game" doesn't come in it....but similar rifle would be the "western classic" or "custom classic" or "classic" or geez, looks like a bunch of others come in it....i think every rifle cept the jackson game.....

don't let me talk you into anythign though, just thought it may be a cartridge to consider.....

I think the model 52 vs 22 only depends on what they chamber in each...52 seems like standard cartridges....ie 30-06 based.....

btw what are your plans for this rifle? targets? antelope/deer? elk? etc...? long range?

I know some guys on here have 6.5-284.....seen a few pictures, target rifles etc....i believe its one of the goto's for 1000yd competition.....

cooper_m22

salukipv1 sorry about not getting back sooner but I thank I no what I am going with now.
For now I am going to go with the Jackson Hunter in a 280rem, I will be placing my order monday. If it comes in on time I will be using it on aBighorn Sheephunt.
But I have read somewhere that there is over a year wait on the M52 . I guess I will find out tomorrow.

But I am all ready looking at my next cooper after this one is in, A cooper M22 in a 6.5-284 for targets Shooting.
But if I do have to wait a year I may just go no and order the
6.5-284.

Thank you for all the help