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Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
Anybody own any Nosler firearms? I saw the Nosler 48 Sporter in Field and Stream....won a "best of the best" award. Seems very nice and I want one!! Any feedback on any from owners??
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RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
I've never seen (in real life) or shot one. They do look great in pics (and probably are) but I'm thinking they are pricey... like starting @ $2500.00. I may be wrong though.
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hope this helps
http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=1&bullet=18 Keep us posted if you buy one...............$2,600. |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
For that price I'd rather get a custom, or a HS Precision.
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I handled one, but did not shoot it. It felt like a smoothed up Kimber. Similar to the original Kimber 82's in quality. By smoothed up I mean the stock-the seller would not allow the bolt to be worked(can not blame him). The rifle could be a great investmet. I can remember when nice Dakota's could be bought for just over $1,000. Look at them now. I have a LH 280 Dakota in the safe I bought close to 20 years ago. It is probably worth 3 or 4 times what I paid for it. That Nosler rifle, if taken care of, will be a great rifle to hunt with, and should also be a great investment. Tom.
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By smoothed up I mean the stock-the seller would not allow the bolt to be worked(can not blame him). Mike |
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I agree if the guy is that picky about the rifle he should keep it. For the price I would definately build a custom chad
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We are not talking about a Savage here. We are talking about a high end rifle. Try to pick up any high end rifle at any show and play around with the action. You will soon either get a dirty look, or a rifle taken away from you. Anyone who buy's a high end rifle does not want every Tom, Dick, and Harry at the show to handle the rifle. Ask permission first, you will normally be allowed. However with a hard to get high end rifle, you might have to prove you are a buyer first.
This rifle could even be considerd a collection type rifle, and I promise you the buyer would not want the action cycled. Tom. |
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For that price I'd rather get a custom, or a HS Precision. HS precision is a sem-custom and a custom would cost twice that with a proprietary action. The Nosler 48 unless I am completely mistaken is a Howa action that has been scalloped for lightweight purposes and is built by a gunmsith in Texas whose name I forget that specializes in accurate Howas. I think for the weight .stock features and looks it is a fine rifle. This ain't no stinking Kimber or Kimber lookalike I can tell you that. |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
[quote]ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter
This ain't no stinking Kimber or Kimber lookalike I can tell you that. By originlal Kimber 82's I mean the Oregon model's. It sounds like you know a good bit about the Nosler's.Actually a good bit more than I do. My comment was merely on the asthetics of the rifle. I would have to say the Nosler was of a lower quality(asthetically) than the original Kimber's. I do have one of the newer Kimber Long Master Classic's, as well as my older 82's. I will agree that the older Kimber's are a better quality rifle. But I can find nothing wrongwith the newer ones But then I paid more for my older 82's than I paid for the new Long Master Classic. Tom. |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
Name of that gunsmith is Bill Wiseman and it looks like something he would build(Model 48). As far as Kimbers go the Oregon guns were mad of much better material then the current MIM metal that Kimber uses in too many of their components on current guns. Their Quaility control was a little inconsistent and some of the later ones were terrible.
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RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter For that price I'd rather get a custom, or a HS Precision. HS precision is a sem-custom and a custom would cost twice that with a proprietary action. The Nosler 48 unless I am completely mistaken is a Howa action that has been scalloped for lightweight purposes and is built by a gunmsith in Texas whose name I forget that specializes in accurate Howas. I think for the weight .stock features and looks it is a fine rifle. This ain't no stinking Kimber or Kimber lookalike I can tell you that. I'm getting a full custom built that will be right around $2500, thats even with a $650 stock. Maybe the Nosler would be cool for a collector, but thats about it. imo |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
HS are technically "semi-custom", but they are built totally in house (action, barrel, stock) and come with a 1/2" guarantee. I'm getting a full custom built that will be right around $2500, thats even with a $650 stock. Maybe the Nosler would be cool for a collector, but thats about it. imo Are you thinking that the HS would somehow be more functional or accurate then the Nosler? |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter HS are technically "semi-custom", but they are built totally in house (action, barrel, stock) and come with a 1/2" guarantee. I'm getting a full custom built that will be right around $2500, thats even with a $650 stock. Maybe the Nosler would be cool for a collector, but thats about it. imo Are you thinking that the HS would somehow be more functional or accurate then the Nosler? edit: I was looking at the price on the wood model, the synthetic 48 is about the same price. So either way would be alright, I would still choose the HS. And they only come in WSM's... |
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They'd should be about equal, just the HS is almost half the price. Where did you find their price list? |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter They'd should be about equal, just the HS is almost half the price. Where did you find their price list? |
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Jeep this may surprise you but there are alot of people who buy firearms who do not care about accuracy. I can remember when Dakota said there primary goal was function(dangerous game). Then followed up by asthetics. With them accuracy was actually their third priority.
For the vast majority of hunter's 1/2 inchcapability is completely lost on them. Many of the hunter's are lucky if they can shoot 2 inch groups at 100 yards. And the thought of a synthetic stock makes them sick. It is also a fact that a custom riflewill usually sell for 1/2 of whatyou paid(if you are lucky) for it. If you need to resell it.Then a high quality non-custom rifle can maintain or appreciate. OF course there are exceptions to this rule, but in general it holds water. Tom. |
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ORIGINAL: HEAD0001 Jeep this may surprise you but there are alot of people who buy firearms who do not care about accuracy. I can remember when Dakota said there primary goal was function(dangerous game). Then followed up by asthetics. With them accuracy was actually their third priority. For the vast majority of hunter's 1/2 inchcapability is completely lost on them. Many of the hunter's are lucky if they can shoot 2 inch groups at 100 yards. And the thought of a synthetic stock makes them sick. It is also a fact that a custom riflewill usually sell for 1/2 of whatyou paid(if you are lucky) for it. If you need to resell it.Then a high quality non-custom rifle can maintain or appreciate. OF course there are exceptions to this rule, but in general it holds water. Tom. |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
I honestly don't personally see the difference in the HS rifles over the Nosler. The Noslers seem like a good a good price compared to most rifles with the same/similar qualities: MicroSlick coatings, Cerakoted barrel/action, stainless barrel, hand-lapped, Kevlar synthetic stock (not a cheapy), Timney trigger, only 6 1/2 lbs (lightest HS is 7.75lbs), minimum 3/4 inch shooting guarantee......about the same price as HS.
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RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
I honestly don't personally see the difference in the HS rifles over the Nosler. The Noslers seem like a good a good price compared to most rifles with the same/similar qualities: MicroSlick coatings, Cerakoted barrel/action, stainless barrel, hand-lapped, Kevlar synthetic stock (not a cheapy), Timney trigger, only 6 1/2 lbs (lightest HS is 7.75lbs), minimum 3/4 inch shooting guarantee......about the same price as HS. |
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The HS's have a 1/2" guarantee, fluted cut-rifled barrels... to name a few. I bet the Nosler is an excellent rifle, just personally, I would go custom or HS. I don't want to be limited to ONLY WSM's.
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Well I own one of these rifles in 300 WSM and its definately not a dressed up Howa or anthing else. Its fairly lightweight shoots like a house of fire with anything I put through it and feeds like a dream. No complaints and I have owned probably 40 custom rifles in the past 35 years and I would put it up against any of them. Maybe not my Bansner sheep hunter but close. The action is slick as glass and the finish on the metal with its dull grey looks great. Worth every penny.
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"and its definately not a dressed up Howa or anthing else"
It is in fact a Howa action that has flutes cut into itto shave weight is'nt it? |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
well if it is it sure has had a lot of work done to it. Not just a shaved action and flutes in the bolt but new bolt shroud, new bottom metal and plenty of internal work. It shoots less than 1/2 inch with anything that I put in it and that's all that counts for me. Thanks for the reply.
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I dono if it's Howa or not. I heard it was, but it sure does not appear to be. The action is sort of in an octagonal shape right?
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it is that shape (octagonal) but the bolt handle does look like Howa, nothing else does though. I guess I could call Kyle at Nosler and see if he would tell me the truth about who builds the action. He has been straight up with me through the buying process as I had lots of questions. I had a little trouble with the stock in that a piece of fiberglass came loose inside and was rattling around. I sent it back and they fixed it that day and got it back to me. Great service.
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I'd like to get one in 280 ai.
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ORIGINAL: bobmitro Well I own one of these rifles in 300 WSM and its definately not a dressed up Howa or anthing else. Its fairly lightweight shoots like a house of fire with anything I put through it and feeds like a dream. No complaints and I have owned probably 40 custom rifles in the past 35 years and I would put it up against any of them. Maybe not my Bansner sheep hunter but close. The action is slick as glass and the finish on the metal with its dull grey looks great. Worth every penny. |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
Hello all. Great forum.
It certainly looks the goods alright. I'm very tempted. I have a few questions I'm unsure of. How is the Nosler 48 action made. Is it investment cast or machined from a billet of steel? I take it the bolt-handle is a one-piece design? The bottom metal-work. Who makes it? |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
have a few questions I'm unsure of. How is the Nosler 48 action made. Is it investment cast or machined from a billet of steel? I take it the bolt-handle is a one-piece design? The bottom metal-work. Who makes it? |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
The March issue of Rifle has articles onthe Nosler Custom48 and the Weatherby Vanguard Custom . It is obvious that the 48 is a Howa action. A few things that stand out are the integral recoil lug, the flat bottom receiver,the bolt is nearly identical with the groove cut in one of the 2 locking lugs, the bolt sleeve is different but the bolt handle looks just like the howa.
Nothing to really complain about here as Nosler has hit a home run with this one. The Howa action is outstanding. I'm a big fan of the Vanguards and to me the 48 is just a little too pricey so I won't be getting one. I understand that Howa (back in the late 60's early 70's)copied the action for their sporter rifle from the Sako Finnbear. Some refinements have been made over the years and we have ended up with the Howa 1500, Weatherby Vanguard and now Nosler 48. |
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Hi folks new here, saw this thread and had to add. I myself am waiting to pickup my M 48 Sporter and should have it next week in 270 WSM. I have held and work the action on this fine piece as I have also shot both of my brother inlaws (270 WSM & 300 WSM) dead on at 100- 3 shot group with all holes touching and 200 at at 1" or a hair over. I had been looking at the Kimber but when I handled and shot this I was sold. Is it to much $? I think not as I intend on having this for life!!
The action is the exact same as their 48 custom 1st, 2nd and 3rd edition-double-square bridge proprietary design,rifle offers exceptional mechanical precision and modern performance. The action features the unmistakably classic lines offered by a Ted Blackburn one-piece bottom metal/trigger guard. To maximize accuracy, the new NoslerCustom action is mated to a hand-lapped, 24-inch match grade stainless steel Wiseman barrel. More info: http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=1&bullet=14 I looked at this as a usuble investment and for the money I don't think there is an equal. Also comes with a personal letter of authenticity that guarantees a 3/4-inch, 3-shot group accuracy—or your money back! All this and a rock solid Kevlar stock You can see these guns at many Cabela stores |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
I'd personally go with a NULA, HS Precision, Cooper, MRI, or a full custom before the Nosler...but thats just me.
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RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
This months riflemagazine has some closeup pictures of it. It is a HOWA action that has been scalloped, the bolt shroud is custom. Bolt is all Howa as well. Howa action is one of the few actions left in this world that are drop forged and then machined. The entire bolt is one piece.The bottom metal is custom(probably sunnyhill) and the barrel is unknown origin as is the stock. The stock though looks like one out of a NULA but with a floorplate which would explain the light weight of the rifle. Bill Wiseman in Texas I am betting has something to do with this rifle since he is a big proponent of HOWA custom rifles and makes some great barrels and custom rifles. |
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ORIGINAL: jeepkid I'd personally go with a NULA, HS Precision, Cooper, MRI, or a full custom before the Nosler...but thats just me. Jeep I would definitely agree with you on the Cooper. I do not know much about the HS Precision. I do have a HS Precision Varmint stock. But I am unable to use it for a Varminter build(barrel channel was not large enough). I have no experience at all with MRI. But I would definitely stay away from NULA. We have had a couple of bad experiences with them. I am currently having a custom 22-250 made. The rifle will wear a 28" Krieger barrel(the best as far as I am concerned). I will have slightly less than $2500 in the rifle. So it would be difficult for me to pay $2500 for a rifle that is stock when I can build one for that, or slightly less. The major problem with what I am doing is simple. If I wanted to resell the rifle I would be in trouble. However I am not going to be selling this one. Tom. |
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I'd personally go with a NULA, HS Precision, Cooper, MRI, or a full custom before the Nosler...but thats just me. NULA...a bit light..no floorplate not a whole lot lighter then this rig HS Precision..stock that fits like a 2x4 ..straight feed mag which makes for a deep un-handy hunting rifle Cooper...fine gun but not in that class sorry straight feed mag MRI--magnum research Is that correct? If so no way I am looking at the features of said rifle. Now obviously a magazine article or full page ad will not tell you what the rifle feels like in respect to balance or pointability and other subtle nuances . Remember the big picture is hunting accuracy I could give a Rat's about something that might average 1/8" better in average group size over 100 strings of shots if it doesn't feed right or function correctly. I do know that if it has Blackburn bottom metal that it will feed rounds slicker then snot and not break or screwup in any way shape or form. I know the HOwa extraction system this thing is modeled after is pretty much unbreakable. Your getting a custom rifle with a custom action.top end barrel in a lightweight carbon fiber stock and the barreled action is done in cerrakote with gunslick on the inside for 24 bills. I can build a remington for that much or slightly less with the same features but it is still a Remington and will have 1/2 the resale value. I think the Nosler will hold its value better. |
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ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter I'd personally go with a NULA, HS Precision, Cooper, MRI, or a full custom before the Nosler...but thats just me. NULA...a bit light..no floorplate not a whole lot lighter then this rig HS Precision..stock that fits like a 2x4 ..straight feed mag which makes for a deep un-handy hunting rifle Cooper...fine gun but not in that class sorry straight feed mag MRI--magnum research Is that correct? If so no way I am looking at the features of said rifle. Now obviously a magazine article or full page ad will not tell you what the rifle feels like in respect to balance or pointability and other subtle nuances . Remember the big picture is hunting accuracy I could give a Rat's about something that might average 1/8" better in average group size over 100 strings of shots if it doesn't feed right or function correctly. I do know that if it has Blackburn bottom metal that it will feed rounds slicker then snot and not break or screwup in any way shape or form. I know the HOwa extraction system this thing is modeled after is pretty much unbreakable. Your getting a custom rifle with a custom action.top end barrel in a lightweight carbon fiber stock and the barreled action is done in cerrakote with gunslick on the inside for 24 bills. I can build a remington for that much or slightly less with the same features but it is still a Remington and will have 1/2 the resale value. I think the Nosler will hold its value better. All the others have been around for a while, the Nosler just came out so who nows how it will perform. And it is also $2600, so yeah a full custom isn't out of the picture. The Nosler is also just a regular push-feed action, so if your worried about feeding, just get the new Winchester Model 70 Extreme Sporter that is controlled feed. I honestly don't know a whole lot about the NULA, so can't comment a lot. HS Precison handle and fit great, not like a 2x4... Coopers are just awesome, and are almost $1000 cheaper... I just bought a Magnum Research rifle, Sako action, Mcmillan stock, Kreiger barrel...whats not to like there? And like I said before, the Nosler is only available in WSM calibers. The others come in standard rounds too. |
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If your only worried about hunting accuracy then just get a factory Remmy, Winchester, Ruger, Savage, etc... Don't kid yourself it is as accurate or more so then any rifle you listed ..OUt of the makes you mentioned for a custom only one stands out and it is too heavy an action to build a suitable custom on and that is the WInchester, the rest are not worth my time wasting 2600 dollars..maybe 1300 dollars. The Nosler will hold its value and I can't believe you even mentioned Savage. All the others have been around for a while, the Nosler just came out so who nows how it will perform. And it is also $2600, so yeah a full custom isn't out of the picture. Full custom is 6k or so for anything that is an improvement over this The Nosler is also just a regular push-feed action, so if your worried about feeding, just get the new Winchester Model 70 Extreme Sporter that is controlled feed. The gun is a pig ..the nosler will be smoother and has better bottom metal... Hasn't come out yet how do you know what quality it has? Based on the 20+ Model 70's that have crossed my hands I doubt that I would buy another anytime soon. Too Heavy. I honestly don't know a whole lot about the NULA, so can't comment a lot. Nulas are allright rifles, I can't get over the lack of floorplate and such and the tiny bolt handle HS Precison handle and fit great, not like a 2x4... Hs precision stocks break at the wrist..their bedding block is abominable. The most overrated stock ever made. The Mcmillan and a few other stocks including the B&C medallion are head and tails superior to it,The Nosler has the best stock of any custom up to and including 6k + models. I don't know who makes it but it is a super stock and to boot it has the best floorplate system of all the guns you mentioned and you would have to spend a lot of bucks building a custom with that system in place. Coopers are just awesome, and are almost $1000 cheaper... And they are pigs as well and not as rugged as the Nosler. No Cerrakote finish just bought a Magnum Research rifle, Sako action, Mcmillan stock, Kreiger barrel...whats not to like there? I don't see any of them at gun shows and don't see people knocking down doors trying to buy them. WHat does it do that a Regular remington,winchester or ruger do? I had the Sako fiberclass ..which is the same gun without the krieger barrel and with the sako dovetail mounts. I don't miss it. It was a too heavy gun. It was a great shooting gun that handled great offhand butI like the 75's much better. And like I said before, the Nosler is only available in WSM calibers. The others come in standard rounds Now mind you I would have to drive 4 hours to pickup a Nosler 48 at a Cabelas store and handle it. If I found it didn't point and handle perfectly I wouldn't purchase it and waste my money. Just giving you the cons on the guns you mentioned vs a Nosler. |
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ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter If your only worried about hunting accuracy then just get a factory Remmy, Winchester, Ruger, Savage, etc... Don't kid yourself it is as accurate or more so then any rifle you listed ..OUt of the makes you mentioned for a custom only one stands out and it is too heavy an action to build a suitable custom on and that is the WInchester, the rest are not worth my time wasting 2600 dollars..maybe 1300 dollars. The Nosler will hold its value and I can't believe you even mentioned Savage. All the others have been around for a while, the Nosler just came out so who nows how it will perform. And it is also $2600, so yeah a full custom isn't out of the picture. Full custom is 6k or so for anything that is an improvement over this The Nosler is also just a regular push-feed action, so if your worried about feeding, just get the new Winchester Model 70 Extreme Sporter that is controlled feed. The gun is a pig ..the nosler will be smoother and has better bottom metal... Hasn't come out yet how do you know what quality it has? Based on the 20+ Model 70's that have crossed my hands I doubt that I would buy another anytime soon. Too Heavy. I honestly don't know a whole lot about the NULA, so can't comment a lot. Nulas are allright rifles, I can't get over the lack of floorplate and such and the tiny bolt handle HS Precison handle and fit great, not like a 2x4... Hs precision stocks break at the wrist..their bedding block is abominable. The most overrated stock ever made. The Mcmillan and a few other stocks including the B&C medallion are head and tails superior to it,The Nosler has the best stock of any custom up to and including 6k + models. I don't know who makes it but it is a super stock and to boot it has the best floorplate system of all the guns you mentioned and you would have to spend a lot of bucks building a custom with that system in place. Coopers are just awesome, and are almost $1000 cheaper... And they are pigs as well and not as rugged as the Nosler. No Cerrakote finish just bought a Magnum Research rifle, Sako action, Mcmillan stock, Kreiger barrel...whats not to like there? I don't see any of them at gun shows and don't see people knocking down doors trying to buy them. WHat does it do that a Regular remington,winchester or ruger do? I had the Sako fiberclass ..which is the same gun without the krieger barrel and with the sako dovetail mounts. I don't miss it. It was a too heavy gun. It was a great shooting gun that handled great offhand butI like the 75's much better. And like I said before, the Nosler is only available in WSM calibers. The others come in standard rounds Now mind you I would have to drive 4 hours to pickup a Nosler 48 at a Cabelas store and handle it. If I found it didn't point and handle perfectly I wouldn't purchase it and waste my money. Just giving you the cons on the guns you mentioned vs a Nosler. Nope, doesn't cost 6k for a full custom, sorry. Not sure how the Nosler will stack up against the Model 70 either...it might be better, might not? Not sure who makes Nosler's stock? It might be overrated... For $1000 less, the Cooper could get Cerrakoted and a Zeiss scope... What does the Nosler do that a regular rifle won't do? I'm not sure how the MRI will shoot yet, its in the "cool down" period[:@] Not sure if the .300 WSM is the most accurate big game round of all time, how did you come to that conclusion? I am going to Sportsmans Warehouse this weekend, hopefully they will have a Nosler I can check out. |
RE: Nosler 48 Sporter anyone??
I was just reading about the Nosler over on 24hour Campfire, the general consensus was NULA over the Nosler.
They also said that the Nosler's barrel is a Pac-Nor. I wonder if it is the standard or super match? |
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