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RE: Team 7 missing buck score
Hell Atlas................I can send you a couple of pictures........I killed two this year that will easily put ya'll ahead ! Just PM me and we can disuss prices .........I doubt anyone remembers what I look like !!!!!!! :D
Jk.........but if the guy doesn't show.............what difference does it make if he claimed to kill one ? I mean..........do you really think Rack didn't kill one this year ??? I bet there is more than one no show in the contest ! :eek: |
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Finally somebody said something that atlas wanted to hear.
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ORIGINAL: CBM SC Hell Atlas................I can send you a couple of pictures........I killed two this year that will easily put ya'll ahead ! Just PM me and we can disuss prices .........I doubt anyone remembers what I look like !!!!!!! :D  Jk.........but if the guy doesn't show.............what difference does it make if he claimed to kill one ? I mean..........do you really think Rack didn't kill one this year ??? I bet there is more than one no show in the contest ! :eek: |
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ORIGINAL: gutshot Finally somebody said something that atlas wanted to hear. gutshot, What is the problem you have with this?? The contest is still open. We have a team member that has killed a buck but not reported it yet. End of story. Don't you want every buck that was killed to be counted?? I don't understand your abrasiveness to this thread. |
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My only problem with this is when everybody thought that the final date was 1/31/01, before they announced that the competiton was still on until 2/15/05, you said that you were just looking for a solution but everytime somebody said that it was to late you argued but as soon as someone agreed with you you were all for that solution. I don't have a problem at all giving the guy until Feb. 15 but if that day comes and goes and he still hasn't posted his buck to bad. And if it's true that he only has a pic of the rack to bad. I guess from what I was reading that you were only going to agree with someone that agreed with you. If that's not true I apologize but from what I read that seems to be the case. And I'm not being "abrasive" you asked for opinions and I gave you mine. To late is to late.
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ORIGINAL: gutshot My only problem with this is when everybody thought that the final date was 1/31/01, before they announced that the competiton was still on until 2/15/05, you said that you were just looking for a solution but everytime somebody said that it was to late you argued but as soon as someone agreed with you you were all for that solution. I don't have a problem at all giving the guy until Feb. 15 but if that day comes and goes and he still hasn't posted his buck to bad. And if it's true that he only has a pic of the rack to bad. I guess from what I was reading that you were only going to agree with someone that agreed with you. If that's not true I apologize but from what I read that seems to be the case. And I'm not being "abrasive" you asked for opinions and I gave you mine. To late is to late. Seeing how I started this thread on 1-30 I don't see your point. No one believed the contest to be closed and that is the whole reason I posted BEFORE it was too late. |
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Wow, this is sad that a contest that had soooooo much time and effort put into it has come down to this!
Hopefully you guys can contact him and get a pic and have the team captains vote! I understand Atlas's point of view, it seems like a waste to have a contest set up to see which team can get the highest collective score, just to have a guy on a team not count his deer, wether it matters or not! But, I see everyone else's point. It was stated in the rules that pictures were supposed to be of a whole deer, with the hunter and bow in the picture, with the exception of the deer killed before any rifle seasons started! If he doesn't want to contribute, that is his problem, and it is a disgrace to the contest, but there is nothing we can do. We can't predict the deers score and we can't say wether it was legit or not! I feel terrible for team 7, but it seems as though their team-mate didn't understand what a team is! As far as Rack-Attack goes, I really wish he would get on here and post an update. I don't care if he got a deer or not, I just want to know how he has been and shoot the breeze with him. I know that he had very little free time when he opened his own archery shop! All I have left to say is that this contest was set-up with the trust that everyone would do the right thing and be truthfull. It was everyones responsability to score their deer accurately and to report them with the needed pictures! |
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Whether the score comes in or not the contest was far from a disgrace. Having one guy not record a score or get a valid pic cause he thought the buck wouldn't mean anything, it is just something that happens. Doesn't make him a bad guy, hopefully it doesn't make anyone not want to participate next year. Up until this small glitch, and a little score"debating", this contest ran really smoothly and has been a great deal of fun. So in the end whatever the deal turns out to be I have no hard feelings either way.
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ORIGINAL: rybohunter Whether the score comes in or not the contest was far from a disgrace I agree totaly. This has been a very fun hunting season due to this contest. I love clicking on to the teams threads and seeing and reading the storys behind there kills and what kind of buck someone had taken for there team! Much fun! Of course there is always has been and always will be some small type of controversy durring any kind of contest where there is competition? fun or not? No more than the little disgreements that we have had this yr, I would say it was a great success!! Many times when there is something new there has to be a few bugs worked out in order to make it run as smooth as possiable. And now sence we have an officail closing date on this contest 02/15/05. No problem;) |
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Kind of reminds me of the golf pro who lost the tournament because he didn't sign his card. Rules are Rules. It's regrettable but doesn't undermine the whole competition.
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Reading through this thread, I could here in the back of my mind Al Gore crying about all the votes being counted.
I didn't say that to tic anyone off. I just think this entire thread is a little odd. Anyway, contest still open..... I'm not celebrating until the bell rings. If we lose it, well, that's ok too. It's been fun. |
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ORIGINAL: badshotbob Reading through this thread, I could here in the back of my mind Al Gore crying about all the votes being counted. I didn't say that to tic anyone off. I just think this entire thread is a little odd. Anyway, contest still open..... I'm not celebrating until the bell rings. If we lose it, well, that's ok too. It's been fun. It's unfortunate you feel that way Bob because I just heard from Spot Light and he said he has not been getting our messages and feels bad that his buck has not been entered. He is gonna get back to me with what pics he has and I am sure this will be done BEFORE the contest closes. I have to say that I am VERY disappointed in the response this thread has recieved. If I had not started this thread and followed through like I have we would NEVER have gotten Spot Lights buck recognized. It doesn't matter at all if it makes a difference in the standings one way or the other. In my opinion EVERYONE should have been in favor of doing what we could to get this buck counted...........after all I thought that was what the contest was all about. Instead I got a lot of comments about "crying" and "whining" and everything in between as if I (and Team 7) were trying to do something dishonest. Funniest thing of all is that the harshest comments all followed the same opening quote of "I don't really care who wins but........" I can't figure out why you would think a thread trying to make sure all bucks killed get counted is "odd" |
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For crying out lound atlasman, stop your dang whinning. I have been quiet long enough. I do believe the rules were posted for us all to abide by, failure to abide by the rules of any competion results in penalities. We all knew up front what the rules were before we entered the contest and what gives you the right to change the rules at the end of the season. Read em and weep. I WILL MORE THAN LIKELY NOT ENTER NEXT YEAR. You do what ever it takes to win bubba, its just not that importantant to me. I play by the rules that were posted at the beginining of the contest. Bobby
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Just one more thing, I have the most amount of respect for the other members of team 7 that brought out the best of me to keep on persurvering, thanks guys, Bobby
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ORIGINAL: 121553 For crying out lound atlasman, stop your dang whinning. I have been quiet long enough. I do believe the rules were posted for us all to abide by, failure to abide by the rules of any competion results in penalities. We all knew up front what the rules were before we entered the contest and what gives you the right to change the rules at the end of the season. Read em and weep. I WILL MORE THAN LIKELY NOT ENTER NEXT YEAR. You do what ever it takes to win bubba, its just not that importantant to me. I play by the rules that were posted at the beginining of the contest. Bobby >>>>>-------------PROUND MEMBER OF THE ELITE #8 TEAM ------------->>>>> What does that even mean?? Has anyone suggested breaking the rules?? Again.........with the comments in this thread you would think that TEAM 7 was doing something wrong. The contest is open until Feb 15th. Bucks can be entered up to that date correct?? What is the problem?? I don't understand this reaction. If someone on your team tells you tomorrow that they killed a buck wouldn't you enter it?? Why don't you want Spot Lights buck counted?? |
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ORIGINAL: 121553 Just one more thing, I have the most amount of respect for the other members of team 7 that brought out the best of me to keep on persurvering, thanks guys, Bobby >>>>>PROUND MEMBER OF THE ELITE 8-------------->>>>>>>>>> Don't kill the messenger pal............I just started the thread for our team. If anyone should be worried about the way they represented their team it is you for blasting away at others for doing nothing wrong........mixed in with saying you don't really care of course :eek: What do you mean by "read em and weep"???.......you do know the contest is still open right? What rule have we broken?? |
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Im with ya Atlas. I Do not see the fault in this? Yes I am apart of Team 7, but winning means very little. I would just like to see all animals counted in the way that the rules said they should have been.
Whomever the winner may be, congradulations to them. I just feel that credit should be given where it was due. Spot Light may not even have Valid Photos, so be it. As long as the opportunity to enter his TROPHY was there. |
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And 121553, Why such the outlash? Like atlas has stated, what rules have we infringed upon? NONE. The Tourney end was never specified completely until this thread was brought about.
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I'm all about letting hte guys score be counted, but next year, we need to set a time limit after a deer is killed that it must be entered by. This has gotton crazy.
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No Offense Josh Keller, but there is no plausible way to set a time limit, unless something that is dated can be shown in photo? But otherwise, good suggestion :)
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I have been quiet for a while now.....and I know I said I wasn't responding to this anymore.....but
As long as the opportunity to enter his TROPHY was there. For team 7...I hope he can produce a picture that will help you out. If not I hope we can let this whole thing die without any hard feelings! |
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Well, man This just aint right.. LEGACY22 from TEAM 15 shot a NICE 8 Pointer. Due to all the excitement , he forgot to get a picture of the deer with him before it was butchered. He as the rack and all that stuff, but he never tried to enter it because he KNEW WHAT THE RULES WERE..
my two cents Man, this is like saying, President Bush didnt win the election against Al Gore because some of the people that wanted to vote for him didnt vote on time, and they still want to vote... You know what we say to them.. SORRY BUDDY.. Rules are Rules.. WHO KNOWS |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman I can't figure out why you would think a thread trying to make sure all bucks killed get counted is "odd" I don't find that part of this thread to be odd at all. I find it odd that there are 7 pages of babble revolving around this topic. Look, it's simple: If your team mate has an uncounted buck, do all you can to get that buck entered. Period. End of story. Why should it be our responsibility to see that another team's buck gets counted? That has nothing to do with poor sportsmanship either, it's just flat out life and that's that. Should I go out of my way to see that another team has the same opportunity to hunt private land as I do? No. Why would I? I'm sick and tired of hearing the philosophy in life that everyone is a winner. That's what they are teaching my kids in school - that you actually don't win, but everyone is in life together in one big happy basket. That is not life my friend. A bit extreme to compare to this simple for-fun bow hunting contest perhaps, but same concept. I also find it odd that if you do not care about winning or losing this contest as you've pointed out for 7 pages, then why did you post this in the first place? Bottom line, who cares? Not to be cold, but really, what difference does it make if a buck was not posted? Why should that concern us? That's like saying the buck I missed early on in the season should be posted too. Again, if there's a buck out there that has been killed by your team mate and not posted for score, do all you can to see to it that it does get posted, don't dump the responsibility on the rest of us. Ok, I'm done. {step off soap box} ;) |
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ORIGINAL: badshotbob ORIGINAL: atlasman I can't figure out why you would think a thread trying to make sure all bucks killed get counted is "odd" I don't find that part of this thread to be odd at all. I find it odd that there are 7 pages of babble revolving around this topic. Look, it's simple: If your team mate has an uncounted buck, do all you can to get that buck entered. Period. End of story. Why should it be our responsibility to see that another team's buck gets counted? That has nothing to do with poor sportsmanship either, it's just flat out life and that's that. Should I go out of my way to see that another team has the same opportunity to hunt private land as I do? No. Why would I? I'm sick and tired of hearing the philosophy in life that everyone is a winner. That's what they are teaching my kids in school - that you actually don't win, but everyone is in life together in one big happy basket. That is not life my friend. A bit extreme to compare to this simple for-fun bow hunting contest perhaps, but same concept. I also find it odd that if you do not care about winning or losing this contest as you've pointed out for 7 pages, then why did you post this in the first place? Bottom line, who cares? Not to be cold, but really, what difference does it make if a buck was not posted? Why should that concern us? That's like saying the buck I missed early on in the season should be posted too. Again, if there's a buck out there that has been killed by your team mate and not posted for score, do all you can to see to it that it does get posted, don't dump the responsibility on the rest of us. Ok, I'm done. {step off soap box} ;) I never asked you or anyone else to do anything bob...........I just wanted to let everyone know what the deal was. You obviously want to win this contest so bad you have lost the ability to calmly reason. How sad. |
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I understood Atlas from day one & never saw any issue at all.
He said that they might have another entry & while we might not have NEEDED that info it sure isnt hurting anyone. If he is a bit uptite about it I guess that would be understandable too, aint real important who wins but it would be nice if all the deer were counted. If the guy doesn't come thru then thats what happened & life will go on but I still can understand it causing some stress to the people involved. Time limits for entry arent needed IMO as the end of the contest is the end of the contest. If you shoot your deer in Sept & post it Feb 15th then I'd say its in. Probly oughtta give till 2 or 3 days after the contest end before cutoff in case someone bags one on the last day & cant get a pic online for a few days. |
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If that buck taken meets the rules, then enter it, if it can't, then get out there with your own bow this last weekend and make something out of it. The rules are there for a reason and NO one person will be exeempt, sorry but we all knew of the rules when we signed up, what do you think your going to get some kind of 4 wheel drive pink catallac for winning the contest? I never thought of winning as importantant as it is too others, maybe young man you'll get there. Good luck, Bobby
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This is really a shame. I don't see how any of this is helping a "FOR FUN" contest. Atlasman I am sure you will quote this reply and say something we already have heard twice in one of your 100 posts here in this thread.
But it is your teamate's responsibility to to post pics and info on any buck he harvested. We dont really know if he even actually harvested a deer do we? Other than he told someone from your team. I don't think any one here is saying it should not be counted if in fact he did harvest a deer. But I did not even see a post from him saying this is what I harvested and pics and score to follow. But now yes we are ALL aware of it and you are simply IMO taking away the hard work of everyone on team 8 who took the time to post the entry within a reasonable amount of time and as soon as they could. Now "IF" team 8 goes on to win the contest it is obviously ONLY because your irresponsible teamate who gave up on you and this contest did not post his alleged deer. That kind of takes the satisfaction out of a only for fun contest. By all means if the deer is posted and entered before the deadline of the 15th it should absolutely be counted. But your crying, yes crying took all the fun out of this contest no matter what the outcome. My advice to you is work on communicating with your teamate before bringing all the hopeful team members of THE ELITE 8 down and making everyone on this forum to try and come to some resolution for you. Take care of it YOURSELF. It's between you and the teamate who abandoned you! All you are doing it is ruining it for everyone else. But thats ok right? I mean as long as everyone knows that team 8 only won it because you have a guy who could not figure out how to follow rules that were posted prior to the season. Thats if he even harvested a deer.  |
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ORIGINAL: Tribal But now yes we are ALL aware of it and you are simply IMO taking away the hard work of everyone on team 8 who took the time to post the entry within a reasonable amount of time and as soon as they could. But your crying, yes crying took all the fun out of this contest no matter what the outcome. GROW UP AND STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN. I never seen a bunch of adults show so much immaturity.......it is really disturbing. My advice to you is work on communicating with your teamate before bringing all the hopeful team members of THE ELITE 8 down and making everyone on this forum to try and come to some resolution for you. Take care of it YOURSELF. It's between you and the teamate who abandoned you! All you are doing it is ruining it for everyone else. But thats ok right? I mean as long as everyone knows that team 8 only won it because you have a guy who could not figure out how to follow rules that were posted prior to the season. Thats if he even harvested a deer.
My advice to you and everyone else getting on my case for no reason is to STFU.......you don't have a clue what you are talking about. I am sick of getting blasted for doing something I thought would be best to AVOID this very reaction from other contest members. So screw all you guys that have taken out your childish tantrums on me. I was trying to help you and everyone else that put a lot of effort into this contest but now you can all just bite me. This whole ordeal has left me shaking my head. I honestly cannot believe the reaction from people to this thread..........I would expect more mature behavior from a group of 1st graders. What a joke......I couldn't care less what happens at this point. Take all our scores away for all I care. |
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No Offense Josh Keller, but there is no plausible way to set a time limit, unless something that is dated can be shown in photo? But otherwise, good suggestion |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: Tribal But now yes we are ALL aware of it and you are simply IMO taking away the hard work of everyone on team 8 who took the time to post the entry within a reasonable amount of time and as soon as they could. But your crying, yes crying took all the fun out of this contest no matter what the outcome. GROW UP AND STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN. I never seen a bunch of adults show so much immaturity.......it is really disturbing. My advice to you is work on communicating with your teamate before bringing all the hopeful team members of THE ELITE 8 down and making everyone on this forum to try and come to some resolution for you. Take care of it YOURSELF. It's between you and the teamate who abandoned you! All you are doing it is ruining it for everyone else. But thats ok right? I mean as long as everyone knows that team 8 only won it because you have a guy who could not figure out how to follow rules that were posted prior to the season. Thats if he even harvested a deer.
My advice to you and everyone else getting on my case for no reason is to STFU.......you don't have a clue what you are talking about. I am sick of getting blasted for doing something I thought would be best to AVOID this very reaction from other contest members. So screw all you guys that have taken out your childish tantrums on me. I was trying to help you and everyone else that put a lot of effort into this contest but now you can all just bite me. This whole ordeal has left me shaking my head. I honestly cannot believe the reaction from people to this thread..........I would expect more mature behavior from a group of 1st graders. What a joke......I couldn't care less what happens at this point. Take all our scores away for all I care.
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ORIGINAL: Tribal LoL, You have serious issues. Let me ask you this. Ok we know you possibly have a alleged buck not counted. What are we suppose to do about it? And if everyone is acting differently that you anticipated maybe it's time to either drop it or give some thought as to why others are responding the way they are. WTF are we suppose to do about it? I don't believe I want to enter again next year. You say you have no control over it then how the fu&* are we suppose to have control over it? I don't remember asking you or anyone else to do a damn thing. Now you have taken any enjoyment out of this contest and flushed it right down the toilet. I want to say thanks. And I am not afraid of losing any contest. That has nothing to do with this. I would have felt the same way no matter what team you were sabotaging. I already told you........I couldn't care less at this point. I started this thread with the best of intentions and look what it got me. It's not worth it. I have better things to do with my time. Burn all our scores for all I care..........you can have your win if it means so much to you that you would all act this way. The funniest thing of all is for 7 pages all I have heard is how it has "Nothing to do with winning or losing" Yet 99% of the blubbering is all from members of team 8. Must be a coincidence I guess I should have listened to all the people who told me you guys would behave this way........I gave you way too much credit. Won't make that mistake twice. |
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Well whatever happens I wil let who ever sort it out. And the fact you are on the team with a missing entry and you on here panicing must be a coincidence also right? Don't be a hipocrite sit back and lets see what happens. If he gets his buck in and its a square deal. Congrats hats off to you. But if there is no buck then how about a congrats to us? Sounds fair to me. Not much more to say at this point. Another few days will tell the story.
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Ok, I've been silent for several pages now. Here is my take....
EVERYBODY wants to win the contest, be honest, you want to win it. We all started out hoping to win. You get bragging rights, which is huge on a internet forum.....It is painfully obvious from Team 8's posts that they desperately want to win. BUT, I would probably do the same if I thought I had it wrapped up and then a dark horse appeared on the horizon to snatch the win away. I completely support the first post or 2 by Atlasman on this topic. It was legitimate IMO. However, things have gotten out of hand since that time, largely due to Team 8's whining about rules. So now we have both sides acting childish, which is uncalled for. LOOK, the contest ends Feb. 15. After that you can claim your prize. And Team 8, if you "win" a contest b/c another didn't enter an alledged deer, just live with it, that happens in life as well. There are always what if's. Regardless of the outcome, Team 8 and Team 7 kicked serious a$$ in the contest and definitely gained my respect, congrats to both teams |
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That is my take on the situation as well. I thought that is what everyone has been saying all along?
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