#1. Balderdash ... #2. Wyvern's primary source for new customers is: fair prices, superb customer service, fortitude to recommend product choices to customers based on their wants & needs, and trust. Basically "word of mouth" so to speak. #3. I'd love to have 5 suppliers and/or manufacturers debating the plus & minus of each other's products on a forum. NOTHING would fly under our radar in that case!!! LOL #4. Forums are for everyone ... this is USA not communist China. While our First Amendment rights are abridged unequally on different forums, apparently Archery Talk and HUNTINGNET aren't trying to throw a censorship blackout net over the 800 pound gorilla of Wyvern Creations to stifle the competition and prevent him from taking all their customers. #5. Wyvern has the guts to take manufacturers to task IN PRINT, on forums. The last thing I think of when somebody mentions Wyvern is that he's a manufacturer's shrill. I often think he's a little nuts business-wise for chewing them out publically. He’s also willing to share valuable insider information concerning how the manufacturer to supplier to customer system actually works. Often manufacturers are NOT doing something for the reasons we see. This awareness can change the whole landscape of a products place with the competition's products. “Advantage ... consumer."

No my friend ... Wyvern is an asset to the consumer on multiple levels. I ain’t married to the guy and I’m largely price driven ... but let’s call a spade a spade here.

wow, this has been a x-bow learning deal for a guy that didn't know what one was a week ago. i am fixing to order, friday, a cross bow and all the goodies that make it go. i will order it from david without a shadow of doubt. i have emailed him back and forth the last few days with bunches of newbie questions. each time except the last he responded within 30 minutes. the last time it was the next morning. i didn't realize until now how many folks he deals with every day. with the exception of this one clown everything i have read about him has been more than positive. he has been honest, given me several options based on what i told him and left the choice to me. even to the point of doing some swap outs on on rings, scopes, etc., based on my wants. i will talk to him friday and make my choice and place a order. i know nothing about the cross bow faternity, but i can read people like a book. i would put a large buck down on david. you bad mouth folks need to go away and maybe take some of david's qualities with you.
james