well,i had bear hunter bow when i was 12..i sat in apple tree, 7 ft above ground.bow was 45 #.my arrows were wood with 5 inch feathers,bear points,still have them too..

i missed that 10 point buck at 10 yds..he ducked the arrow,went right over back..after he left, a 300 pd bear came out in field, guess what tree he decided to go up..

mine..

when he got up to my limb , i jumped to ground..down he came almost on top of me..i dont know who was more scared, me or him..

my school buddy saw bear run by him,he said he was really moving..its wonder i am alive with allthings that happened..read my post what happened to me today over on the predator topic..

I never mentioned a CB in my post. I figured it was with a recurve so I used the math with a 240 fps factor then used the speed of sound taken off for the travel time of the shot noise to come up with the tenth oftenth of a second number. [30/240-[30/1150]]=.099 and some change of a second! = Fast deer!!!

i have a horton blackhawk with a 200lb draw an im comfortable shooting out to 50yds. my multi range scope it dead nuts accurate out that far but only have taken the shot 3 times in 3 yrs. idont have a problem with it and i have gotten a complete pass through every time.

I'm going to try 40 yards see how it shoots with crimson tallon hiper speed broud heads made for cross bows

i read a article of great crossbow shooter..he shoots 88 yds..he used 2213 ,xx78 arrows,nap nitron 125 hunting point,he puts a 2020 ,3.15 inch shaft inside ahead of insert for strength and FOC and blazer 1.5 inch vanes at 2 degree..

he shoots about 2 inch or so group ,with hunting points thats something..

i know that point he uses is one i see a lot at our club,guys like they way they fly in their compound bows, hit almost where the field points do..

I'll buy some nap nitron 125 and let you know how they work thanks

i am by far not best but not worst for advice..i just got into crossbows but have bow hunted for longtime and seen and read info..a lot on here are better at crossbow ,my experience is with recurve..

if i can offer my best thing to make arrow fly good is get your inserts SQUARED..i just had mine done and every point i put on had NO WOBBLE..
your archery shop can do that for a few dollarsand its BEST advice i could offer..

Sproule baby, substitute the word true for squared. Any buy your own ASD. They aren't very expensive.