That should be fighting words !!

BigJ12 - Heres the funny thing ........ and why people hate when I come onto these threads. I shoot traditional and I got no problems telling people that my choice of hunting weapon is by far more difficult than a their choice of a compound, or a muzzleloader or a rifle for that matter. It simply IS - and its my choice. So while I fully understand the CHOICES ...... where I differ is that I simply don't care that a compound is easy or that a crossbow is even easier.

Why ? Because neither of thos weapons have EVER had a negative impact on my hunting. Ever. So why WOULD I find is offensive for compounds and crossbows to be in archery season ? I wouldn't - but others do becuase of either a high and mighty attitude or for selfish reasons.

perhaps the reason some people might take offense to your repeated argumentative posts in these more serious forums (unlike the political forum), is because you never seem to offer anything other than your opinion on why you are right and others are wrong. You never appear when there is a technical question or a how-to question from a newbie or to offer any kind of positive advice.....only to argue your own perceptions of how things SHOULD be according to you.

it does not really make any differance to me what anyone is using to hunt with the deer will be just as dead in the end. i am just saying that if you are going to use a compound in bow season than you may as well use your model 700 remington in the black powder season. the crossbow is no worst that the compound.

Your compounds got a stock?

Datamax....

I'm not going to sit here and get into this little pissing match with you. Do you think I'm a fool and have never been around any bows(compound-single or dual cam, recurve, long bow, homemade stick bow or xbow) in my lifetime and have not shot any one of those weapons??? Come on now. You like debate...plain and simple. And it also doesn't take me long to realize that you honestly feel that you are more of a man/hunter(ala Arthur P) than most because you "choose" as you say, to shoot trad. Everything else is just too easy for you. You may not think it, but you certainly portray yourself as one.

I want you to answer one VERY SIMPLE question for me and you can leave out all of the fluff that you so delicately put in every single one of your posts...

Out of these three weapons....which one is the easiest to shoot...takes the least amount of time to get good with....allows someone very minimal amount of movement in stand to shoot at an animal...and can be put down with the same type of movement if an animal hangs up just out of range? A long bow/recurve....a compound or an xbow??

As you say...you've shot them all so this should be a very easy question to answer. All I want is a one word answer.

Who did you used to be?

Data,

I know you shoot traditional and yes it is harder than a compound....by a long shot. I grew up on long bows It's all I shot until I was 13. Then I went to a recurve and I thought it was wonderful to have such a shelf to shoot off of. Both of them took me a while to learn and I still don't consider myself to be very good at it either. I then switched to a compound because I thought they were cool looking and guess what? It took me all of 1/2 hour to get good at shooting it. I'm not that old (just turned 40) but all I had was long bows as a kid.

I cringe everytime I hear some bow hunter talk about how hard it is to hunt with a bow and how easy it is with a firearm. To me it just shows how silly and uneducated in the ways of hunting some are. I'm sorry guys but sitting in a tree stand or gound blind right next to a deer path with your lanes picked out and yardage markers set is not hard.

Try walking all day and I mean ALL day from sun up to sun down for two pheasants. I know it's different and with dogs can be easy but where I am here in Illinois the pheasant population has suffered and you have to walk miles and miles for one bird. I'd rather sit in a tree anyday.

Before anybody starts posting I know some of you stalk deer and some have to climb mountians to reach your quarry and I take my hat off to you. I too hunted the rockies and it's a workout. But most of you just sit in a tree or a ground blind and wait like me!

Crossbows are not evil, just another form of bow. Yes it has a stock and is cocked but it's still a form of a bow.

I still haven't received any responce to my statement that just like the crossbow today, at one time the compound was the odd bow out had to be allowed into the bow hunting fold. If those hunters back then took the stance most of you are today it wouldn't be legal to shoot your compounds today now would it?

If you knew all the usernames I've posted under you might have a different revelation concerning that !

Actually I DO try to answer question on the trad board. Compounders can better answer compound questions that I. Go to www.Bowsite.com and go to the elk forum. I give lots of advice there. Tradgang.com I'm not as vocal on but read more because those boys know more than I do as far as trad hunting.

I know a lot about some things, and very little about many things. The crossbow is something I know more than almost anyone here about. I've owned them, shot them and I grew up in a state that has them in legal archery season. I have shot compounds for years and now shoot trad equipment - I KNOW the differences between them therefore I have a good opinion about the whole thing.

AS for other than my opinions ......... look at the stats and facts from states that allow crossbows.