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Old 04-05-2005 | 04:14 PM
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MNRut,

I don't want to argue with you and I am sorry for calling you a slob hunter.

I will not hold it against you if you feel the need to limit you shots to under 100yds that's fine.

However as long as I shoot within the slugs capabilities (and they are over 200yds) don't call me one either.

Again I just ask you to please take the time and do some research on them, that's all.

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Old 04-05-2005 | 04:16 PM
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MNRut,

I don't want to argue with you and I am sorry for calling you a slob hunter.

I will not hold it against you if you feel the need to limit you shots to under 100yds that's fine.

However as long as I shoot within the slugs capabilities (and they are over 200yds) don't call me one either.

Again I just ask you to please take the time and do some research on them, that's all.

Ok?
You started it!

My apologies also
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Old 04-05-2005 | 04:19 PM
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You started it!

My apologies also
Cool, now we can gat back to calling each other names because of crossbowslol

I need to step out for a while. I will check back in later.
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Old 04-05-2005 | 04:22 PM
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Crossbows suck dude!
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Old 04-05-2005 | 06:06 PM
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So everything is the EXACT SAME THING except a crossbow has a stock and keeps the string cocked, but it's like some kind of "leap of faith" for some of you to see that. Sorry but my six year old can see that they are the same.


Ummm - so its not the exact same thing. Having the string cocked is the big deal. That's why your six year old could shoot a crossbow and not your compound.
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Old 04-05-2005 | 06:10 PM
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I tell you what though ........... I can shoot better groups with todays advanced shotguns at 200 yards than you can with a crossbow at 75 yards or a recurve at 20 yards

thats perspective, isn't it ? And then I'll pick up YOU compound and shoot good groups at 40 yards too boot !


Damn, Data .... with skills like that, who needs a crossbow? You should be using a slingshot or a spear!
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Old 04-05-2005 | 06:32 PM
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The weapons DOES fit - look no farther than AR, OH, GA, Canada etc etc. - and it IS manages easily by looing at how our states include them and the effect they have on archery season (which is NOT a negative)
If thats all the closer your gonna look lets look at Ohio? Crossbow harvests made up the majority of their archery harvest last year.[>:] I bet it increases every year.
I see BigJ12 saying "doesn't anyone read my posts"[X(] Well , I've seen alot of jumping around mine as well. A seperate crossbow season? Oh thats right - "its' not neccessary". As if you can even begin answering that question for every state!



Well, it unites all archers for one thing, plus its putting perspective on what bowhunting is - and isn't. Crossbows in archery season are not bad - you've seen the facts.
"Putting perspective on what bowhunting is - and isn't" and you want it all lumped together in one season? Please explain the lunacy in that statement.


Okay, lets consider it. What states have allowed crossbows and what were the results ? Hmmmmmmmm, yes, that doesn't fit your anti-crossbow stance very well, does it.
Wow! What scientific research you've done! Care to break it down a little further for everyone? Like say , out of the 3 states that allow crossbows during archery season , what year were crossbows legalized? Before or during the "booming compound era"? How many bowhunters before legalizing crossbows? How many bowhunters the following year? How many bowhunters now? The deer population in each state starting before legalization? The harvest total for each state before legalization? The harvest totals now? Including gun harvests matched with DNR's desired yearly quota? How each state keeps track of which kills were compound/trad vs crossbow?
All kinds of pertinent info that needs to be taken into account for real research involving each individual state. Hmmmmm , yes , that right , that doesn't fit your pro crossbow (another chance to slam compounds) stance very well.

But, when you take a guy that's really good and put a compound that's infinitely tunable in his hand and you take a guy thats really good and put crossbow in his hand, the guy with the compound is going to wax the crossbow guys @SS every time. That doesn't imply IMO that I think they would have a lower success rate than trad equipment but that was a nice try
Nice try Silent! Thats why the 3d tourneys that do allow crossbows , make the crossbows use open sights and shoot standing up , off hand.
Clue - They wont/dont hunt that way! Thats when the scopes and rests come in real handy.


Actually, you're wrong, yet again, which isn't surprisng. What I've shown - over and over, is that crossbows as easy and thats why compounders hate them, but compunds are easy too yet compounders WANT that easy without allowing anyone else easy.
Correction. You've tried to show that compounds are just as easy as crossbows. And YES this whole thread was just another chance to slam compounds. Evident by anyone who's been around long enough to see your other posts under a different user name.


If you really wanted to change our minds you would have went about all of this in a different manner.

No - actually I wouldn't have
No - actually you should have!



But a compound with a machined riser, non-working horizonal limb technology, huge multi cams that allow >80% letoff, triggered released, fall away rests, cables and string and pulley ........ yeah, THATS a bow huh ?
Well , yeah! Btw , "non working" horizontal limb technology? Care to explain that one? Are you trying to tell us that the limbs of a compound dont have a functioning factor in the shot?

okey dokey - you managed to say ............. uh, nothing really, in all that you typed. Congrats
The irony!!! Youv've done the same for over 80 pages!


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Old 04-05-2005 | 06:37 PM
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Crossbow still suck
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Old 04-05-2005 | 06:53 PM
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Hey theres no reason to call him a slob if he shoots out to 100 yards with a 12 gauge, heck i would if i could shoot effectivly at that range and if he can its more power to him.
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Old 04-05-2005 | 06:59 PM
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That's why your six year old could shoot a crossbow and not your compound.
And thank God they CAN in Arkansas !

Damn, Data .... with skills like that, who needs a crossbow? You should be using a slingshot or a spear!
I shoot a recurve right now - plenty of challenge there

Crossbow harvests made up the majority of their archery harvest last year.
and boy, their deer herd sucks, don't it ?

"Putting perspective on what bowhunting is - and isn't" and you want it all lumped together in one season? Please explain the lunacy in that statement.
the "lunacy" is the fact that crossbows have never been a negative to archery season.

Wow! What scientific research you've done! Care to break it down a little further for everyone? Like say , out of the 3 states that allow crossbows during archery season , what year were crossbows legalized? Before or during the "booming compound era"? How many bowhunters before legalizing crossbows? How many bowhunters the following year? How many bowhunters now? The deer population in each state starting before legalization? The harvest total for each state before legalization? The harvest totals now? Including gun harvests matched with DNR's desired yearly quota? How each state keeps track of which kills were compound/trad vs crossbow?
All kinds of pertinent info that needs to be taken into account for real research involving each individual state. Hmmmmm , yes , that right , that doesn't fit your pro crossbow (another chance to slam compounds) stance very well.
Look it up - compounds dominate archery season and have increased since they were allowed in. They "took over" archery season like nobody thought possible ! Do you deny that ? P&Y and G&F have to constantly tweak and ajust their "rules" to allow the latest and greatest want of compounders. Its true - like it or not.

Correction. You've tried to show that compounds are just as easy as crossbows. And YES this whole thread was just another chance to slam compounds. Evident by anyone who's been around long enough to see your other posts under a different user name.
I never used "different user" as a username ! And if you HAD read enough of my stuff you'd know I'm all for all bows in archery season - I've said that for a very long time.

No - actually you should have!
but I didn't

Well , yeah! Btw , "non working" horizontal limb technology? Care to explain that one? Are you trying to tell us that the limbs of a compound dont have a functioning factor in the shot?
Minimal. The limbs don't do much of anything anymore - they can't, they're horizontal to each other and aren't very "bendy"

Crossbow still suck
Compounds still suck
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