I understand your skepticism and I am sure it's the same thing that people here thought. However, I honestly don't think it will be the case. I know it certainly hasn't had that kind of impact here. I don't think it will there either.

Again I have to reference Arkansas where we have had a crossbow season since the mid-70's haven't had any such laws.

It’s truly sad that some of you don’t know what a bow is. A bow is a weapon that shoots arrows powered by the elasticity of the bow and/or its string. The technique of using a bow is called archery.

I still cannot use my crossbow for hunting.

What’s there to be afraid of?

Forty yards is the range that almost all experts consider the max for hunting. A crossbow bolt has something like a 13 foot arc at sixty yards and a deer can easily move 3-4 feet during grazing during that period. It’s extremely easy to wound a deer even if it’s not startled.

Keywords: What if your youngster desired to begin archery hunting for the first time? On the other hand, they were just attracted to crossbows. Even though you strived to get him/her to use a bow they were not interested.

I don't believe anyone will disagree with that in a week, you can teach a new compound shooter to shoot tighter groups than most traditional shooters can accomplish in a year of hard practice. The learning curve between a crossbow and a compound is a few days. With a bare stick bow the difference between it and either the crossbow and the compound bow is measured in months and every now and then years.

I’m from New York. It pisses me off.

I’m interested as to what your thoughts are on the Concept99 bow?

Flat Feet

I agree with you and like I said in my last post I think I am looking at it in the overall classification of the weapon vs how it is used in the hunt.

While it is used like a rifle and not like a bow it is still a bow and to me should be classified as a bow and put into the bow season if allowed. Afterall the compound bow while held and used like a regular bow is no way near to being the same as a long or recurve bow, but all are still bows right?

Again to all, sorry if I come across close minded, I do understand what you are saying and will be open to additional opinions as well.

While I can agree with you and Datamax on many points, this is why I fight xbows in archery:

True HOWEVER its not enough to effect archery season in any way, shape or form (see AR, OH and GA stats). The archery harvest BTW is made up in your state almost entirely of compound kills, isn't it ? Imagine if they banned compounds ......... you'd get longer seasons and more liberal bag limits, wouldn't you ? (just reversing your logic)

Again, thats an old wives tale that has NEVER happened in states with crossbows legal in archery season.

Bottom line it never HAS hurt gun season - do you even CARE about knowing the facts on how crossbows hasn't made these impacts in AR,GA,OH ??

Gee, and the compound never opened those, did they ?

Because by learning with a compound they will be allowed to hunt during archery season. If they shot a crossbow in the states I hunt they would be limited to firearm season only. Also, at the Sportsmen's club I belong to, they don't allow crossbows to shoot the 3-d targets or walk the course I love. Only bows are allowed. Also, they are not allowed in the indoor archery league I belong to, only traditional and compounds.


Call it BS all you want, they are still not legal. I would think BS would be more like arguing for crossbows to be legal during archery season when 47 states have made it illegal to hunt with them if you are healthy.


Additional Pro's-
Quicker learning/ramp up time for novices to become profeccient with it as a hunting weapon
Something "new" in a sport that doesn't change frequently
Quieter in suburban hunting areas, more public friendly
Lends itself to "ground hunting" better than a bow. Not requiring treestands to be as effective to cover excess movement.


Guys, I'm trying. I have added to your list of Pro's. They have merits for sure.

List the pro or con about the effect that crossbow hunting will have on archery hunting.

Cons-

They do allow the taking of game after legal shooting hours to easily without being detected (not the crossbows fault, the hunters of course)
The further lowering of the standards of practice and training necessary to become proficient as an archer
Safety – being a loaded and cocked weapon makes them inherently more dangerous than a bow. Especially considering the treestand use of archery season
Dividing the sport of archery and hunters in general. This thread clearly shows the passion and division the crossbow has upon archers who shoot bows and those hunters who shoot crossbows.
The effect this will have on archery seasons in SOME states. In GA, AR and Ohio the sheer numbers and opportunities on deer allow for the additional weapons and hunters on the population. Here in NH we take about 10,000 deer a year, less than 2,000 during an archery season that runs 3 months. Our herds couldn’t take greater kills, so added pressure would require shortening of seasons. Today crossbow usage is limited to firearms season, if they were allowed to hunt the 3 month archery season the greater participation based on ease of use would require shortening the season. So adding crossbows would reduce archery season.
Allowing for even more advanced technology into the sport of archery hunting than exists today


These are the Cons “I” see after thinking for about 3 minutes on what adding crossbows to archery hunting in my state.

2 wrongs does not make a right


I realize that OH and AR have had xbow seasons fro 30 years now. BUT, back then I would imagine xbows were hard to come by, not very common in stores, etc, remember no internet back then Culture and economics dictated that traditional or compounds be used. That culture has not changed, atleast for AR. OH, IMO has some alarming stats that do scare me. Alabama just passed xbows in archery season last year, I would be interested to see the effects it will on their herd, which resembles ours very closely, even down to the seasons and liberal bag limits. If I see no ill effects over the next few years, then I may give a little.

I would suspect my state will be legalizing xbows within the next 5 years.. It's a constant subject and almost got passed this year.

A recurve isn't the ultimate quiet night time shooting bow ?


BWWHHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA !! Compounds don't do that, do they ?


How many bowhunters have been killed/hurt from compounds vs crossbows ?


Negative towards COMPOUNDS, not crossbows

Not a con - a fear, an unfounded one based on nothing

You want your easy, but no one else can have their



Cons are things that are TRUE - not fears that are unfounded and based on nothing. I spanked you - why do you come back for more ??

Hey Ethel, shut the light off... it's time to put it to bed.

When they pass a conceal carry bill for crossbows in New York, this is the piece that I will be packing: