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aeroslinger 04-07-2005 06:53 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: silentassassin


As Horton and Tenpoint crossbows are made in Ohio, its understandable that they would be legal there

You think those companies were around 30 years ago when they made them legal there
:eek:

Go to Hortons site and it says almost a half a century ago Bernard Horton began working on crossbows so about the time it was legalized there would make alot of sense. :eek:


My guess is the other states where they are legal have some similar type influence.

With all due respect my guess is that your guess isn't a very intelligent one. Crossbows have been legal here for the last 30 years.
With all due respect, your OPINION on my guess is about as intelligent as most of your inane arguing about crossbows. You think businesses don't influence our government and policies? Wow. How old are you?


and handicapped people can shoot compounds during archery season so there is nothing really for them to complain about.

What if there handicap leaves them unable to shoot a compound?
Sorry for the typo. I meant crossbows. But hey, its legal for handicapped people to shoot compounds too.
:eek::eek:

aeroslinger 04-07-2005 07:02 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: silentassassin


As Horton and Tenpoint crossbows are made in Ohio, its understandable that they would be legal there

You think those companies were around 30 years ago when they made them legal there:eek:
Go to Hortons site. It talks about Horton beginning almost a half century ago. Or maybe you KNOW different. :eek::eek:


My guess is the other states where they are legal have some similar type influence.

With all due respect my guess is that your guess isn't a very intelligent one. Crossbows have been legal here for the last 30 years.
Your OPINION of my guess is worth about as much as your inane arguing about crossbows.


and handicapped people can shoot compounds during archery season so there is nothing really for them to complain about.

What if there handicap leaves them unable to shoot a compound?
Sorry for the typo. I meant crossbows.

datamax 04-07-2005 07:31 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Your trying to say the majority of compound hunters would just use a gun if there were just one season for all weapons?
I totally believe they would. When push comes to shove mose people like to kill animals. Create a poll on guys who ONLY use bows - not a great many are archery only - and how many actually hunt during rifle season with them - lots less. Challenge them to SHARE seasons ? They'd drop the compond and pick up the rifle slicker than snot


Did he really just sell out and grab the compound?? Was it a bunch of B.S. so he can say "hey I used a compound , I have nothing against them"???
Well - I sucked with my recurve and picked up the compound and shot it one evening, maybe 20-30 shot and hunted 3 days with it no practice before killing my nice non-typical buck. Thats the truth, like it or not.


The same reason that flyfisherman think that spin fishing is somehow less noble- they want to feel superior. Disregard the fact that the difficult 95% of fishing is just fishing - you know, find the fish, set up on the fish, cast to the fish, etc
BINGO ! I agree



If traditionalists are flyfisherman, and compounds are spin fisherman, than crossbows are trollers. You still have to find the fish, and once you get one on the line you need to play it and reel it in. But trollers lack a whole series of other fishing skills - casting with precision, setting the hook...you get the idea.
Absolutely frickin GREAT anaology ! Everyone of those guys buy the same fishing license, all are considered fisherman, they just have a bit different approach with different rods and reels and techniques. Theres VERY few places where its flyfishing only, and they are that way because the resource gets hammered if they allow spin casting/trolling/live bait etc. And we see in AR,OH and GA and Canada that the fear of a resource being negatively effected (deer) is not a reality in any way, shape or form. IN Fact, like I showed, the compound has attributed to a 10X increase in bowhunters just in the past 10 years alone - no negative effects.

Excellent analogy !


My thoughts? You should enter politics in the democratic race. You dont answer direct questions. You hop , skip , jump around , and reply with another question.
And you danced too - you don't like my idea because it would give archery season back to those who most need the extra days and have the greatest challenge

datamax 04-07-2005 07:32 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
aeroslinger - Ben Pearson made recurve/longbow and later compoud for decades in crossbow legal AR - FYI

BigJ71 04-07-2005 09:26 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Bigj, thats the only thing I have agreed with you on. Take another 100 pages if you want and blow smoke but your still not a bowhunter using an x-bow. I would say that to your face, your a crossbower, totally two different idenities. Its like talking too a child, good day. Bobby
P.S. I know I said I wouldn't repley anymore but I think you guys are just hilliriaus tring to justify that it should be in the same season and you call yourself a bowhunter. I can not tell you how many times in the 35 years of bow hunting that I have done how many times I have been busted while drawing back or having to hold at full draw beyond my capabilities and having too let up. With the crossbowbow you point and shoot, just like a shot gun, and as I said before, Don't call yourself a bowhunter. Take another 100 pages and try again. By the way I am shooting a Kodiak Hunter and a black widow recurve as well as an TRX.
1st. Please post the quote you are referring to so I can fully understand just what the hell you are talking about.

2nd. I have never shot a crossbow in my life. (if you would have actually READ all of my posts you would know that)

3rd. By the way I shoot a Browning Boss Tracker (again, if you would have actually READ all of my posts you would know that too)

4th. I highly doubt you would say that to MY face, Bobby;) Good day to you too.

aeroslinger 04-07-2005 09:36 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

ORIGINAL: datamax

aeroslinger - Ben Pearson made recurve/longbow and later compoud for decades in crossbow legal AR - FYI
And your point is....?

Yes. Pearson is one of the oldest bow companies around. Great company and great bows! :)

BigJ71 04-07-2005 09:40 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

What do you mean "bells and whistles"? sounds kind of silly.
You know, all the things that are added to a compound bow that make it as far from an actual BOW as you can make one, like.....

front sights
peep sights
drop away rests
over draws
cams
cables
string loops
"D" loops
trigger releases
32in and smaller A to A
wrist slings
Stabilizers
kisser buttons
parallel limbs
split limbs
machined aluminum and magnesium risers
50% 65% 70% 80% and even up to 99% let offs
attached quivers
etc....
I don't know about you but I don't recall long bows having any of those "bells & whistles" do you?

BigJ71 04-07-2005 09:57 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Sounds like you just like to argue.
No I don't "just like to argue" I am trying to get some of you to understand that the differences between a crossbow and a compound bow while different are by no means worse than the differences between a compound bow and a long bow, yet it was ok to let the compound bows into the fold, why not the crossbows?

On the one hand you have two bows (compound and cross) that share almost all of the same hightech gizmos but are shot differently. And on the other you have two bows (compound and long) that are shot the same yet share absolutely none of the same hightech gizmos.

In both examples the two bows compared are complete opposites from each other but two of them can share a season and the other two cannot?

It comes down to this: I feel just because a crossbow is shot differently does not mean it's not a bow, just another FORM of a bow. And I am not alone because the Websters Dictionary thinks the same way I do.

BigJ71 04-07-2005 10:01 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
This thread is still acting up.....I still can't see the last post posted.

ELKINMTCWB 04-07-2005 11:01 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
Even the states that let xbows in DO NOT CALL THEM BOWS. The are in a drifrant class just the same season. mmmmmmmmm I gess thouse states are allso roung.

In Montana any thing that locks your string is no leagal. And as I see it in most states they are not leagal. So I gess all you xbow guys will just have to STAY IN YOUR OWN STATE to hunt with a xbow.


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