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Let off %
What let off do you guys shoot, and does it have any effect on bow speed?
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Well...right now I shoot 65% so I can get the most speed I can get. But when I get the bow Im gonna get this spring. I will be able to achieve up to 97% let off without any speed loss at all. If I want to fiddle with it alot, I can go from 40% to over 95% let off with zero speed loss.
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I get 0% let off with my new bow. I just switched from a compound to a recurve. I am still new to shooting a recurve so I draw back to the corner of my lip and wait for the let off to take place! I get a nice suprise after I feel a sharp pain in my arm!
I used to shoot 70% let off. It does hamper the speed, but not by much. |
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Dairy King, 97% let off, WOW, Please don't take this the wrong way, but are you sure about that? What bow manufacture claims it can do that? I am not saying your wrong, I just want to read about that for myself before I believe it.
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I knew someone wouldn't believe me. The manufacturer doesn't claim it, but the bow is called an Oneida Stealth. A stock Stealth can't do it, but if I send it up to Monster Bows Inc. they will upgrade it to achieve 97% let off (similar to what Crackers does to Martins/Marlins, whatever bows them are)...and Yes, it REALLY is 97% let off, I chat with a guy that helps in upgrading the bows and various other people who have had this done. If I really wanted to, I could draw the bow, point it at the ground and let go of the riser and it would hang (very dangerous, would never do it). Its not a bloated claim, its actually over 90% let off.
I hope you understood what I said. If you dont have a clue what i just said, I will try to say it a little better. Edit::I can give you the guys email if you dont believe me. and Yes, I really do "chat" with the guys. Over on Oneida's forums, they have a chat room where I go to quite often. |
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Idaho
If you are interest in a "high letoff" bow check out Concept archery. They have the concept 99. It has 99% letoff. I have bows that I shoot that range anywhere between 65% and 80%. |
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Where would it be legal to hunt with a 97% let off ? No where here in the states that I know of.
I had the moduals changed in my bow to 65% to meet the P/Y requirements, but hell the're changing there standards as the industry changes. Bobby |
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buckeyebuchhnt, thanks for the info, I was just wanting to learn more about it. I never knew bows went or could go that high with let off. I thought 90% was about the highest let off that was available. Here in my home state of Idaho we have to use 65% let off or under. But I would like to for fun try shooting a bow that has 95% or more. I would never want to use it for hunting even where legal, I think that it would be to slow for my likeing.
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121553, I have heard and thought that P&Y changed the rules to allow animals killed with bows up to 85%? It wouldn't matter for me because like I said in my last post I have to hunt with 65%. Even if I could use a greater let off I don't think I would, 65% suites me just fine, and it seem to be a prefect balance between let off and speed.
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Concept claims only a couple fps loss from the 80% let off to the 99% let off option. I have never shot one, only read about them. I believe GV Holiday (may have his name wrong?) is a staff shooter for them. I am sure he could shed some light for your curiosity.
Shooting 70 pounds I like around 80% let off. Shooting 60 pounds I like 65% let off better. Not enough holding weight for me with 80% at 60 pounds. |
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I shoot 65%.......for now, but I'm about to buy a recurve.
Maybe their are one or two exceptions, but most every bow is faster with a lower letoff, and with less handshock. Do you guys actually think it would be fun shooting with 90% or 97% letoff? You guys talking about shooting anything higher than 80% might as well trash the compound and shoot a crossbow. :eek: |
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Hello,
Don't take offense, I guess I just don't understand. If you could draw the bow and then let it hang, what would be the difference if you would draw the bow and release the string? I would think that it wouldn't launch the arrow! What am I missing here?:eek: ORIGINAL: Dairy King I knew someone wouldn't believe me. The manufacturer doesn't claim it, but the bow is called an Oneida Stealth. A stock Stealth can't do it, but if I send it up to Monster Bows Inc. they will upgrade it to achieve 97% let off (similar to what Crackers does to Martins/Marlins, whatever bows them are)...and Yes, it REALLY is 97% let off, I chat with a guy that helps in upgrading the bows and various other people who have had this done. If I really wanted to, I could draw the bow, point it at the ground and let go of the riser and it would hang (very dangerous, would never do it). Its not a bloated claim, its actually over 90% let off. I hope you understood what I said. If you dont have a clue what i just said, I will try to say it a little better. Edit::I can give you the guys email if you dont believe me. and Yes, I really do "chat" with the guys. Over on Oneida's forums, they have a chat room where I go to quite often. |
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I think we have got carried away with this high letoff. I am shooting 65% right now only because I can't find a 50 or less. I think you get a better release with less letoff and I am looking at recurves as an alternative. I believe we are all looking for an easy way to be good shots without practice. With the high letoffs its just a matter of getting your bow sighted in and you are good to go. My 2 cents.
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65% is the state max in Washington and Oregon, so thats what I shoot.
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I am shooting 55% let off and my dad is shooting 85% and we are both pulling the same weight and I cannot tell on arrow speed.
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Hello, Don't take offense, I guess I just don't understand. If you could draw the bow and then let it hang, what would be the difference if you would draw the bow and release the string? I would think that it wouldn't launch the arrow! What am I missing here? |
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Thats what I was trying to say,,, Let off % has nothing to do with how fast a bow is shooting.
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I shoot a 65% let off. It is a bit easier on my shoulder.
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ORIGINAL: idahoelkinstructor 121553, I have heard and thought that P&Y changed the rules to allow animals killed with bows up to 85%? It wouldn't matter for me because like I said in my last post I have to hunt with 65%. Even if I could use a greater let off I don't think I would, 65% suites me just fine, and it seem to be a prefect balance between let off and speed. I would really like to get my name put in this book before the new one comes out.;) Bobby |
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I think those with 80% are being accepted with an asterisk put next to them to denote high left off bows. I think I read that on their website.
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So, because of the cams, let off has no bearing on speed? Am I understanding this correctly?
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yes your right...the only thing that effects the speed is the tension of the limbs.;)
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No, with conventional bows, the lower the let off, the faster the bow will go.
GVDocHoliday knows exactly what I'm talking about. I have seen him in the chat room before. I believe he has a Stealth with 90% let off. |
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A lower let off will help you achieve more speed. This is because when you draw the bow back and are only holding 65% of the weight vs. 75-80% of the weight, more of the energy is being stored in the limbs, causing the arrow to have more speed when the arrow is released.
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Heres one Stealth that I know of that has 95% let off. I left a messege on the forums and he said him self (the owner of the this bow)that, him and the guy who did the upgrade did seperate tests and there was zero speed loss at lower and higher let off.
54# 29" 95% let off 300 grain arrow 280fps Just think what it would do at IBO speeds.  |
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Does everybody realize that no matter 50, 65, or 80% let off, as long as the poundage on the bow is proper, you'll kill any deer with good shot placement. I know grunt grunt grunt me man must make bigger must make badder. I've shot with 65% and now shoot with 80% let off and both work just fine for hunting. OBTW that Oneida Stealth looks like it has a Nuge camo pattern from Renegade (pretty cool).
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It does. I dont think he realized The Nuge had that pattern til after he got the snakeskin put on it. But then again, he may have seen it and loved the pattern.
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I've never shot an oneida of any sort. Does it shoot as smooth as some of the top of the line bows out there? Just curious I guess.
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I am using 80% let-off.Yes the more let-off you use the slower your bow will shoot but you will never notice it though.
Funeralplanner I did notice you are shooting a lite arrow.I do realize its 5 grains per pound giving you 345 at 69 lbs.Just a word of precaution,you are shooting the lightest arrow for your setup. Are you shooting this setup for 3D? And please dont shoot any lighter or your warrenty will be void on your new allegiance should something let go.None of my business,just a word of precaution. |
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ORIGINAL: Stone316_74 I've never shot an oneida of any sort. Does it shoot as smooth as some of the top of the line bows out there? Just curious I guess. |
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Well maybe someday I'll have to try one out just for giggles if anything. Cuz you know to me.............
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extreme,
I do realize that is as light as I can go. I shot the same setup with my Mathews and had no problem at all hunting. This allegiance is much faster, and I'm more accurate with it. I've also found, that the speed is no different, but less let off, say around 65% feels much better than 80% to me. If I need to let down, it is smoother because there isn't as much a "valley" to let down over if you know what I mean. |
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Well I just put on some string leaches, so my speed is a little slower.....305[:@]
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i don't shoot well with over 65%.
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It just felt much more comfortable to me. Don't know why, it just does. I have an allegiance, and I don't know "exactly" what the let off is because of being adjustable, but i found a spot where it feels really good to shoot. I'm just guessing it is around 60% or so.
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ORIGINAL: funeralplanner1 Well I just put on some string leaches, so my speed is a little slower.....305[:@] |
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Hey guys i guess i am a hole lot newer at bowhunting than i thought. I was unaware that there was a law on let off % of your bow. anybody now where i could find it?
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idahoelkinstructor,Pope and Young new rule is any let off now.There is no 80 cut off.I recieved all info on new rules several months ago,and there is only the * for let off above 65.
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BUCHEYEBUCKHTR,THE CONCEPT 99 THAT I OWN AT 29 INCH DRAW AND 60LBS,SET AT 99% DRAWS TO A VERY HARD WALL,WITH NO SPONGE.Speed with a 314 grain arrow is 294 at 99% and 297 at 80%
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Concept 99 ibo speed is 309 to 314 with a brass nok and string leach
acc 318 with 3 inch feathers. 36 inch ata 7.25 brace concept 32 is ibo 296 to 300 same string specks. 31.25 ata 7.25 brace concept minni 29 ibo 300 to 304 ata 29 inch brace 8.25 concept u2 32 dual ibo 315 to 318 ata 30 inch brace 6.5 concept p 50 ibo 295 to 300 ata 34 inch brace 7.5 concept stleth ibo 320 to 324 ata 36 brace 6.5 all speeds are at 99% |
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