So what model is the Old man you guys are using??? Or do they only make one?

Loggy is a great stand. You can get a new XL Legend from the factory as a cosmetic blemish for $170. The platform is 20x32 and weighs 14lbs.

I just got a new treelounge the redesigned ones! Its great! I had one of the orignal ones its an awesome stand but the weight was awful thats why I purchased the new one. It only weights 18.6 lbs!

http://www.lafeeders.com/seats-climbers.html

i have two ole man climbers, one was/is called "grand ole man" it's a bigger stand, the other is made out of carbon fiber, don't remember what it was called and i dont think they make it anymore but it is light and packs easily, the only drawback is the weight limit on the carbon climber is 225# so when you weigh 200+ and you have to add for your clothing/boots and bow/gun it adds up quickly. most people that i know that are buying them now like the vision, because you can have the front bar up for a rifle rest or you can turn it over and have a foot rest.

like i mentioned before in all fairness i have not used a summit climber in 10 years, they are great climbers and there made very close to where i live, in fact i bought one eons ago before they were for sale to the public, before that i had used baker climbers "deathtrap model" and homemade climbers[:-], like mentioned above i've never used the tree lounge but i here they are very comfortable, i really like(d) the 3 ole man climbers i have used, but there are alot of guys on here that really like the new summits, i would look at all of them, sit in one, climb with it, find the one you like, think about sitting in it all day, like during rut, and go from there.

oh yea where are my manners welcome to the site

I use the old man grand vision. I bought 6 of them when a hunting shop when't out of business. Will never use anything else.