RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

Interesting thread. My fishin buddy whom i got into huntin likes it more for the buddy thing and with the bow hunting i feel its almost necessary to be alone to have the best chance...so i prefer it that way. I like certain types of hunting with buddies but not so much the bowhunting and fishin with buddies is a given. Bowhuntin is such a personal experience...

lol, listen to me will ya, i have one archery season under my belt, although i tagged out on my 4 deer tags and passed a bunch of bucks waiting for mr. big that i missed on day 2 of the season and ultimately took the local boss during the rut at the end of the season(who wasn't mr. big btw...must have scared him into the next country?)...anyhow, its different for everyone in what it means but there's still the common interest of it all also

B
p.s. i get quieter and quieter as time passes though...

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

Whew!! I wish you would go back and READ my post, not READ INTO it. There's a big difference.
Of course I want them to be succesful, the more the merrier, but I also want them to do it from their own treestand, not mine. What you don't know atlasman, is that we hunt on over 6,000 acres. There's only a handful of people who hunt this property, so there's PLENTY of room for people to find their own spot. In fact, both of my brothers are older than me and have hunted longer and are more than capable of finding and hunting their own place, but respect for my hunting ability , laziness, and lack of courtesy causes them to crowd in on me. I don't do that to them or anyone else.

When they do kill a big buck, nobody is happier for them than I am. Guaranteed. I am not jealous, selfish,or anything else you mentioned, and I won't take it personally because I'm sure you simply read my post from the wrong perspective.

I never said I wanted everything for myself, I never said I didn't want anyone else to shoot anything, but I would like to be able to hunt without being intruded on, and in my situation that means keeping information to myself. If I could tell my brothers what I see and not have them crowd me, I certainly would.

Also keep in mind my brothers and I have all killed a lot of deer. We got on this lease for trophy hunting only. I drive 1-1/2 hours to get where I hunt, I sacrifice a lot of money, time and sleep. Just so you know , I'm the one who found this property and introduced them to it! Is that selfish?? I also helped both of them with the lease money. Is that selfish?? All I want is to be able to hunt without someone trying to crowd me because they are too lazy to go scout their own spot.

I just wanted to clarify atlasman, because I'm sure you are level headed and had simply misunderstood and I don't want you to have the wrong impression. If I did want "everything to myself" and was jealous of them and did not want them to have success, then I agree with you that would be wrong. But I assure you that's not the case. I would be tickled pink if they killed twice as many bucks as me and if they were all bigger than mine, just not sitting in my stand doing it while I had to work.(which has happened). I also spend a lot of time trying to help them scout new areas. I WANT them to be successful, but I'd rather them do it at my help, not my expense.

-cap

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

Ya, i didn't read that into your post captain, i think that there explains all the people who crowd areas after they hear or see a big buck come out of it...not you

B

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

As long as the person abides by all applicable laws and reasonable hunting ethics, there is nothing wrong with the person being somewhat a loner and keeping things to themselves.

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

This reads like your not really "buddies" at all..........even though they see you as a "buddy".........perhaps if they knew everything you kept from them they might have a different opinion.


You say you have nothing to hide...........right after telling us you hide and sneak.


You are lying............it's OK..........I wouldn't blab to every stranger I saw at the local coffee shop either. When it comes to family and close friends if your answer is the same then that's a different story.


You don't think this sounds like someone who wants that deer for himself and ONLY himself...........If you would truely be happy to see one of your brothers kill that buck they would know about it by now.


Didn't you say something about having nothing to hide??



You asked...........I'm just being honest.

Sorry if it's not the response you wanted...................you painted the picture and that's how I saw it.


Their success is only OK with you if it doesn't effect you in any way??


A simple chat on common curtesy would probably clear that up over morning coffee.


As long as you didn't see him first right?


I guess that's where we are different............I saw a nice buck 2 years ago that kept avoiding me........and in a small plot of woods no less!! He was always juuuuust out of reach. I took both my brothers with me and set up a gauntlet so he wouldn't be able to slip by........my oldest bro got busted drawing and we didn't see him again for about 10 days...............when my good friend killed him from the exact tree I sit in. We were all thrilled that someone got him and I couldn't care less that he took him from my tree............I did 90% of the legwork on that deer but was thrilled when I saw him in the truck......even if it wasn't my truck ;)


So have we

Our drives are 1-2 hours depending on which area............I can relate.

I understand what you are saying and I think you would be much better served having this conversation with your brothers and friends.........instead of a bunch of strangers on the net ;)

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

I can't wait until my nephew is old enough to hit the woods............I would gladly scrifice a year of scouting to see him whack his first deer. We have all killed plenty of them.............let the little kid have a chance.......with 6,000 acres I'm sure you have another stand out there somewhere.


God I hope the day never comes when I say that........and we are the same age.

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

atlasman,

Do you just wake up wanting to be overly critical or do you have to work at it??
I tried to address your first post as a gentleman under attack should, but you seem to have selective hearing(reading) and very little desire to understand. You are a negative person.

The bottom line here is we are just different, but rather than accept that you want to attack that difference. I think it's great if you and all your buddies want to jump in a little wood lot to try and corner a buck. More power to you. But that's something I would never do. It's not my style. That doesn't make me wrong or right or you wrong or right, we are just different.

I could criticize you on your differences, but I'm not gonna stoop that low . I think it's great there are guys like you out there. Leaves more mature bucks for me.

You have put words in my mouth, intentions in my heart, etc. that are not there. You read in too much and you know too little about the whole situation. Funny you are the only one who has replied that feels that way. Not a SINGLE other person has deducted that I am jealous or don't want people to succeed. I never said ANY of that. And if one of the other guys kills that big buck I think that would be great, UNLESS they slip into my area behind my back to do it.

I don't have anything to hide because I'm not doing anything wrong, but I hide my truck, etc because I don't want people knowing where I hunt. Did you and your brother do something wrong when you dragged that buck out in daylight where people could see?? NO. Do you regret it?? YES. That's the whole point.

Listen, you can say what you want , but at this point I am turning you off. I come on here for fun , not confrontation. Post whatever you want if you want, I will not reply to you again unless your post is of a more mature nature. If not, you're wasting your time.

BTW, everyone else is reading this and you are probably losing credibility at this point. I think you'd be alright if you weren't so critical, but that's you're issue, not mine.;)

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

If I have a stand out thats mine and I see a big buck I'll tell my friends and I can trust that no one is going there w/o asking me. Thats why their friends. Now this year we have 5 people leasing a property and we are rotating stands, if I see a big buck I will probably not tell because then everybody will be after it. Of course if we rotate stands theres nothing I can really do about it.

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

Actually, I felt the same way Atlas did when I read it too, I just didn't want to argue over it. Granted, I can see your point, my initial reaction was the same as Atlas'. To say that no one else felt the same was as Atlas is to put words in all of our mouths, which you have asked Atlas not to do to you. So I'm going to ask you not to assume, not to put words into all of our mouths. I may be the only other person who misunderstood your post as Atlas did, but until the rest speak up about it we can only assume, and we all know what happens when we assume.

RE: Metamorphosis of a Bowhunter
 

You are right in the sense that I don't know what everybody is THINKING,but that statement was based on the posts that were made .If you notice in your quote of me, I said not a single other person "who has replied" felt that way, so I thought it would be obvious I was referring to the posts that were made . I can't speak on everybody's thoughts whether they agree or disagree, but again it was based on the posts, which is all I have to go by. That's all any of us have to go by on here,really, so for me it is just a given, but I'll concede I should have clarified that.I guess I should have said"not a SINGLE other person,who has replied, has deducted in their post that I am jealous or don't want people to succeed." I never said I was jealous or didn't want others to succeed, so if you got that impression, which you said you did, you are ASSUMING I guess. You know what assuming does.;)

I am not at all jealous. I do want others, especially my family and friends, to succeed. But what's wrong with expecting them to do their own homework?? I don't mind helping them either, but I want to volunteer it , not have it forced on me. I help my brothers and nephews and niece all the time, but I also expect their daddies to do their part and not just rely on me because they know I do my homework.

I did go back and read your post, and the difference is you did not attack me, you just stated you enjoyed hunting with your dad. I enjoyed hunting with my dad too when he hunted. He is 70 now and his health is not that good and he has not hunted for several years. I've tried to talk him into going with me so I could hunt with him, but he never feels up to it. It's one of those things that happens. I'm sure you'll understand it better some day. And savor every moment you get now. All things come to an end eventually.;)