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What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
#71
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Blissfield MI USA
I had a big long response to this, but erased it. It really just boils down to the fact that I hear too many horror strories about people buying carbons and they have 3 or 4 bad ones right out of the box that won't fly right. I rarely hear this with aluminums. And if having the perfect spine is such an issue, wouldn't aluminums still be the way to go? They offer more spine choices than most carbons do. With carbons you just sort of have to pick one that is close. Am I wrong on that? And the arrows I was shooting that were spined to 100 lbs were arrow dynamics nitro stingers. They are a bit different from the avarage carbon, maybe that had something to do with it. And they were actually a bit faster than other arrows I tried that were of the same weight.
And to me aluminums are easier to work with if I want to play. I don't have a shop with all the cool tools. I can cut aluminums with a tubing cutter and assemble them with hot melt glue. And if I want to change something I can take them apart over my stove. I just took 3 of my 1816's and cut them down 2 1/2 inches to try with my new bow. I couldn't have done that with my carbons. I don't own an arrow saw, and don't really want to get one. It doesn't really matter with fletching them, it works out the same either way for the most part. Other than you need to be a bit more careful removing the old fletching from carbons.
Like I said, I have shot both, of several different brands. I never reallly had any trouble with any of them myself. Aluminums just tend to be a bit cheaper and more convenient for me is all. And I have yet to bend or mess up an aluminum arrow. I have ruined a few of course, but had it been a carbon it would have been destroyed just the same. Carbons are tougher, especially if you glance them off something or your target falls over with arrows in them.
And you don't need to send me any arrows for free just to prove your point. That's a generous offer and I thank you for it, but I understand what you are saying quite well. Besides I may go with beemans if I get carbons this time around. And I have a cabela's not more than thirty miles from me. If I am correct some of thier arrows are made by blackhawk as well.
Paul
And to me aluminums are easier to work with if I want to play. I don't have a shop with all the cool tools. I can cut aluminums with a tubing cutter and assemble them with hot melt glue. And if I want to change something I can take them apart over my stove. I just took 3 of my 1816's and cut them down 2 1/2 inches to try with my new bow. I couldn't have done that with my carbons. I don't own an arrow saw, and don't really want to get one. It doesn't really matter with fletching them, it works out the same either way for the most part. Other than you need to be a bit more careful removing the old fletching from carbons.
Like I said, I have shot both, of several different brands. I never reallly had any trouble with any of them myself. Aluminums just tend to be a bit cheaper and more convenient for me is all. And I have yet to bend or mess up an aluminum arrow. I have ruined a few of course, but had it been a carbon it would have been destroyed just the same. Carbons are tougher, especially if you glance them off something or your target falls over with arrows in them.
And you don't need to send me any arrows for free just to prove your point. That's a generous offer and I thank you for it, but I understand what you are saying quite well. Besides I may go with beemans if I get carbons this time around. And I have a cabela's not more than thirty miles from me. If I am correct some of thier arrows are made by blackhawk as well.
Paul
#72
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From: Blissfield MI USA
After re-reading some of my posts I want to clarify something. When I say get a stiff carbon, I mean like get one the next step up from what they suggest. Like if you shot 70 lbs at 29 inches and it says to use 55/75 gold tips or something, go to the next size up arrow. I'm not saying if you shoot 50 lbs and 25 inches of draw to get 75/95's. That would be a bit extreme, it would be a good way to add weight to your arrows if you wanted though. You might have trouble tuning your broad heads however. You would be able to get them to group well I think, but I doubt you would get them to impact with your field points.
Tony, I replied to your E-mial. I hope you don't take any of this personal, I don't. It's just a discussion. I would be happy to talk in person with you at work. I'm sure I will end up at Cabela's for something in the near future.
Paul
Tony, I replied to your E-mial. I hope you don't take any of this personal, I don't. It's just a discussion. I would be happy to talk in person with you at work. I'm sure I will end up at Cabela's for something in the near future.
Paul
#73
Joined: Nov 2003
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i shoot all of them but my main shafts for hunting are either carbon or wood depending whether i am hunting with my compounds or my traditional bows. they all have their purpose but i prefer for compound using hte carbons ooverall and may try them for traditional as well this year
rob k
rob k
#74
Joined: Jul 2004
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This year i am gonna hunt with the new Easton ST Axis 340 tipped with a Muzzy 100 grain 3 blade . i have hunted with Gold Tip's & A/C/C & Beman Hunter's in the past and had good results with them all on the deer here in NC due the small size of the deer . But i started bowhunting in Ohio and there the deer a lot bigger and i want the extra knock down with a heavier shaft . I am getting really good flight and penatration with the axis arrows . the charts suggested i shoot the 400 shafts but i went the 340 due to it being heavier and i was looking for that extra knock down. Give the carbon's a try I think you will be really happy ya did .
#75
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Lockesburg Ar USA
Crazy year for me. I broke down and bought some ACC's, and just for a kick I picked up some Easton Maxum Deuce 2213's, knowing good and well I was gonna shoot the ACC's. The ACC's will see no more daylight this year. My set up is complete, with the 2213's in the starting line-up.
#78
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: mont belvieu,texas
cxl 250's for 3d shoots and gold tip pro hunters 55/75 for hunting.i did shoot aluminum for a long time,but i realized i could get away with a little misjudged distance with a lighter arrow. however i feel a heavy aluminum is a tried and true deliverer,especially on elk sized animals.
#80
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: SW Indiana
i shoot aluminum. xx75 2213 easton to be exact... considered changing over to carbons a few times but i always end up thinking, if it aint broke dont fix it. no need to change what has worked just fine.














