To start I will say that these are great looking broadheads, with a great warranty, produced by a great company. But in the past two weeks I have encountered some bad experiences. The first was about a 350 lb hog at 30 yards. The hog was standing broadside, I was the camera man at the time. On camera you can see the fletchings pass through, a perfect lung shot, and stick in a tree on the other side. we waited for a while then began to track the hog. After nearly a mile the blood trail ran out. We were astonished. We watched the shot over and over again to confirm what we had seen. It ended up with no hog in the truck and we felt horrible.

Six nights later more hogs. This one was eating some soured corn, standing in a quartering away position at 25 yards. Again I was the camera man. My buddy's shot runs straight through the lungs and is hanging out by the fletchings as the hog begins to run. Not 10 feet later the arrow falls out. Another perfect shot. We can see on video as the hog turns that the arrow was hanging out between the front shoulder and the briscuit area. Again we wait... half a mile later, the blood trail runs out.

in both instances we went back the next morning to see if we could find any sign and hopefully recover the hog. Unfortunately it didn't happen.

I was somewhat disappointed. These broadheads did indeed provide incredible penetration. My friend was shooting a 62lb LX with gold tip arrows. A full pass through on a hog is in itself impressive. I just question myself as to whether or not these heads do enough damage on their way through the body cavity. While I was thinking about it, I realized that as a 2-blade head passes through, there is a possibility that a major artery or vein can go untouched. Any other 3 or 4 blade head would cut these arteries. I don't know what to think, but I know I'm sick about these 2 hogs.

I think that before I give up the stingers I will try the 4 blades.
Any opinions? thanks for listening to the long post.

All I can tell you is that I have used the 2 blade 125's on my recent pig hunt. Shot was through the lungs, and I recoverd him. I don't doubt what you think you saw, but any animal hit properly though the chest with any broadhead will go down reasonably fast. Two blade heads are lethal and I would tend to think that the hit's were not as good as you may think. I have found that 99% of the "broadhead failed" conversation I have had, more often than not it was the location of the hit, and not the broadhead.

What grain head were they? The lighter ones are a smaller diameter, and maybe that played a part. I use the 125 gr stingers and in my opinion, you can't beat them.

If it was a double lung it's not going to travel a mile.No way.

With the thick skin and "plates" of a hog, perhaps a small diameter hole was plugged up by really thick flesh and ended the bloodtrail. The animal still should have died fairly quickly if it was, indeed, a double lunger. I would tend to think it was further back than the lungs, which have a lot of the thick stuff up front. I always hear that you should shoot a hog on a quartering away so that you can get the arrow started behind the thick plating. This would allow for an easier pass through. Just a guess.

Sorry, but I am having a hard time believing that any animal that is doubled lunged is going to be unrecoverable.

Well those are definetly great broadheads, however the two blade, im reluctant to use, i prefer three.

'ALWAYS LEAVE THE WOODS WITH SOMTHING"

I shot 4 deer with the 2 blade 125 grain heads this season. All were complete pass thrus, but as I have posted before, the blood trails suck. I recovered all deer, but it was only b/c they were double lungers and covered less than 100yds anyway.

I will not be shooting them again this year.

Ditto.

I'm not going to disagree with anything that was said. I too don't understand how this happened. I am working on getting the video clip posted so that you can all see the same thing that I have watched over and over. I have seen hogs shot in the same place that died within 40 yards. Anyway, I will try to get the video posted.