RE: Scent lok-who has never spent a dime on it?
 

I stand corrected;)

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Exactly. You'll never be scent free regardless what you do so I think whether you're in an astronaut suit, some sort of bubble, scent lock, carhart, jeans and tee shirt, etc...... It just doesn't make that big of a difference. Be as scent free as possible with what you're wearing and hunt the wind IMO.
On the otherhand if someone can justify spending the money for the stuff then I suppose there may be an added advantage. I certainly can't be hurting you. But like Arthur said, who knows if it's really helping you when faced with a situation like a buck coming in downwind from you. I've been "caught with my pants down" before too without scent lock. No way to know if it was or wasn't the clothing.
Bottom line is though either way it's certainly not a situation where the stuff is going to have a negative impact so hey what the heck go for it if you feel like spending the $$$.

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I don't buy in at all, not one dime. But I might buy in if it were only a dime. It just seems WAY overpriced to me.

RE: Scent lok-who has never spent a dime on it?
 

Well I have spent some money on it before but I won't ever spend any money on it again.

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I can't and won't argue that. I have had deer come in directly downwind before Scentlok was in my wardrobe.....just a whole lot less often!;)

Taken from the above link.

What does "fully reactivate" really mean? At what temps do human scent molecules 'vaporize'?

I still say the stuff doesn't hurt. I stil practice 'hunt the wind' stratagies. I still bath and deodorized with scent free products. I see carbon as a benefit.

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Also to be honest with you guys I won't take anyone to any of my hunting spots if they don't wear scent lok and practice strict scent control measures let alone be super accurate with their archery gear. And then I only take them if the wind is working for more than 1 stand site.

I have taken my 3 biggest bucks since I started using scent lok 3 years ago. Concidence or not that I can't answer.

Even if the stuff only catches 1/3 of my scent it is worth every penny to me.

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I guess it's probably true when you look at it that way. I may give it a whirl this season. Bass Pro will be having it's grand opening in my hometown June 9th. probably gonna be some good deals out there. What do you scent lock guys recomend?? How long does the stuff last? How do you justify it to your wife without getting the cold shoulder for a month?

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Its all in what you want out of it:)
Give me a price range and will make some suggestions[8D]

I like the MT050 gore tex rain gear myself but it is pricey. But even
if / when the scent lok is not longer any good I still got one hell of a rain suit:D

As PA mentioned you can buy the liner suit for $100 bucks. You just put your favorite camo right on top of it. It will work for all seasons.

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I'm in need of new Scentlok this year. I have had mine now for 3 seasons, but I got it cheap, $50 each for the pants and jacket. I lost a bunch of weight and now I'm basically swimming in the stuff....it was just poly-cotton material which I DO NOT RECOMMEND as it bleaches out easiliy and pills up just as easily. I'm looking at the Dakota and Savanna series and also some of Cabela's lines as well. There's a lot to choose from!

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I never have either, however I must admit I am very intriqued and have often thought of getting a suit.

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The liner sounds like a good bet to me. That way you can layer yourself according to the weather with your normal camo it seems. If I bought it though I'd probably go the whole 9 yards with a full suit. I'm scared to ask but how much are we talking for say some bibs and a parka with layers??

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Jason

you will love the new scent lok. It is so much lighter and thinner than the style you are using now. The new scent lok material is as thin as a cotton shirt. It has come a long way the past couple years. My brother has the savanna series bibs. The camo looks like crap after 1 season. I would shy away from this material. JMO.

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Insulated bibs?
4 in 1 type parka?

www.cabelas.com

Do a little searching and start now! There is so much to look at you should start looking now and keep up with it so that you can make an informed decision when you're ready. Good luck!

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Well if you are goin the whole 9 yards buy the MT050 gore tex scent lok suit.
MT050 gore tex pants. scent lok, $179.95
MT050 gore tex jacket scent lok, $189.95
Plus $20-$30 for a head cover.

This set is top of line line. I wear it all season. I just layer underneath it. I was warmer with the gore tex this winter than any other winter.

Cold weather I wear polyproplene long johns, Thick felece warm up suit, then thick cotton jogging suit.

Keeps me plenty warm under the gore tex

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There was a time when I wanted a scent lok suit. It was WAY overpriced IMO.

Then the prices began to come down just a bit--to make it more tempting. But by then, I'd learned (on this board) that the pores become "filled" after a period of time and the recharge method that they recommend isn't effective because most dryers don't reach the temps required for this to occur. I had the opportunity to buy some a week ago at Cabela's. I passed and plan on remaining obsessed with my scent control and playing the wind. It's worked great for over 20 years.

One other thing. Who among us HASN'T had deer walk directly downwind without appearing to notice the scent? I've had deer circle me completely many times during turkey season--when scent control isn't a concern for me--and they never seemed to notice.

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Early archery season here in KY is way too warm to wear anything but a tshirt and pants. I don't think the new SL clothing is as light as a cotton T shirt and I don't want anything that is going to make me sweat more than I already am. It probably does help, I just don't think it's going to help me enough to justify the downsides.

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So, alloutdoors, a deer walked right up to you while you were wearing a suit. Big deal. I've got a better story.

One day I'd gotten way too early a start after staying up way too late the night before with a little too much Chivas Regal. Leaned back against a tree and took a nap. Snoozing my little butt off - just me and Shania Twain in the Dreamland Mountains - when all of a sudden I got this cold nose on the back of my neck and heard a weird snuffling sound come from behind me.

Coming almost back to reality, the thought that I was being attacked by some toothy wild critter entered my mind and I about jumped out of my skin. Apparently the same thought occurred to that flippin' critter at about the same time and she picked the same escape route that I did. Things got pretty exciting for a few seconds, until I finally realized I was getting the crap beat out of me by a doe, so I turned loose of her neck and let her go.

Having a deer walk right up to you is NOT a unique experience. And it does NOT require scentlock clothing. In fact, it does NOT require a whole scent elimination regimen. Sometimes all it takes is being dead tired and hungover.

Maybe someday someone will do some reasearch and find out a good hangover from Scotch or bourbon is a surefire deer lure. Then we can spend our money on good booze instead of clothes and get good'n snockered the night before the hunt.

In the meantime... I'll hunt like the lion. No scent containment BS, only ordinary hygiene. Then it's my skill and luck against the animal's skill and luck. May the best one win.

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I used Scentlok for a few years. I don't think the benefit is worth the cost. That's just my opinion but I killed more deer this year than I did in the 3 previous years that I was wearing Scentlok and to the best of my knowledge never got busted. Now I don't doubt some deer smelled me and just never let me know about it. However, I killed a buck at 15 yards straight down wind and I wasn't 12 feet off the ground on one oocaision. On another occaision I had 5 does and 130 class buck come in and stage up 50 yards straight down wind of me for about 20 minutes. I even powder tested the air and my scent was blowing straight to them. But there was nothing I could do. Finally those deer came in but the only one that gave me a shot was close to the base of my tree that I couldn't shoot. I think scent lok can help significantly for a short period of time and then it's useless. I tried it, I can afford, but I just can't justify spending that money on something that I came to realize was not needed. JMO

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Alloutdoors,

I know of dozens of stories similar to Arthurs. I've experienced many myself. Frequently, deer are simply not spooked by human scent.

The best story I know of, happened to my college room mate, while we were doing some preseason scouting of Elk in the Colorado high country. He was sitting on the ground looking at some far-away bulls with his binocs, when he heard some elk, downwind, coming up behind him. He layed flat on the ground, next to a small rock ledge that was about 1 foot high. A cow came up to the rock ledge on stood there, only a few inches from him. He was scared half to death, that if he moved she might startle and trample him. Instead, the cow took a pee, that splashed on the rock ledge and got all over him. It then, stepped over him, and continued on at a slow walk! No one in the world can convince me that it didn't smell him, or that it cared. Myself, even though I've had many deer within feet of me and downwind, nothing compared to that, in excitement.

RE: Scent lok-who has never spent a dime on it?
 

I am stating a fact and you are merely speculating.

The scent lok material is as thin as a cotton t-shirt. I didn't say the jacket ,pant, etc etc is as thin as a cotton t-shirt. I said the scent lok material is.

RE: Scent lok-who has never spent a dime on it?
 

I will post some scent lok up close pics of deer.

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Never bought it and I never will. In fact, I need all you guys to stop creating a market for this stuff so that I can find a good set of regular NON-VELCRO pants that don't cost 110 bucks!

Hunting clothes are getting ridiculously expensive and it's easy to see how they're being manufactured and marketed. Anything decent with quiet fasteners and adjustables an it cost an arm and a leg - because it's undoubtably laced with some brand name something that someone keeps buying. The "lesser" pants not only don't have the commercial whatcha-ma-callit all over it, but they sew in velcro everywhere.

What's with velcro on hunting pants?[:@] It's almost as noisy as the carbon liners they put in these things.

Keep clean, hunt the wind, and use spray on scent killers. You'll have something to where at every temperature and maybe even a pair of pants that don't sound like you're wearing a tarp...........

If I had the extra 100 bucks to waste, I'd buy a pair of those otherwise very well designed pants and tear the silly liner right out of it.

*Breathe*..........sorry for the rant.[&o]

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Here are some close up pics for you guys. All were taken from a natural ground blind on the ground. With an HP digital camera.

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I just shake my head when I hear someone say something so stupid. You really have no clue what you are speaking of. If you want to contribute to this thread not just take up bandwidth post something correct. Not just your assumption of how things really are.

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When I tried it on, what part of the crinkling liner did I misinterpret as noise?

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I say damn the stuff if it does work, damn it if it does not. ;)

First, I have my own doubts as to the adsorption properties of charcoal suits, particularly after repeated wearings. We use carbon to filter volatile organics from contaminated groundwater in the environmental field. In order to strip the organics from "spent" carbon (or to "regenerate" it), it has to be heated to somewhere around 1,000 degrees or so. I'm not aware of a clothes dryer that comes close to approaching that temperature. Of course, carbon suits can be washed and come out smelling fresh like any clothes...but the charcoal's available adsorption sites will still be filled.

Did a quick google search and found this link describing carbon used for vapor phase stripping.

http://www.cpeo.org/techtree/ttdescript/vapphas.htm

Second, if there was such a suit that performed as claimed, I'd have my own personal issue with it, in that it would allow what I'd consider to be an unfair advantage. While others may seek technology to eliminate an animal's sense of smell from the equation, I seek to challenge it.

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So what you are saying is that there is a camo SL long sleeve t shirt that is as thin as cotton Tshirt? If there is great! If not, then it is too hot for me to wear in early bow season.

RE: Scent lok-who has never spent a dime on it?
 

Dude, don't you think you ought to bring it down a notch or two?

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It would be like wearing 2 cotton shirts. 1 layer would be the scent lok and the second layer would be the outter layer of the garment.

I understand what you mean with the heat. We sometimes get some pretty hot days in the early archery season here too.


I don't mean to come across up tight, I'm really not. For some reason I just let it get to me hearing people bad mouth something and state untrue remarks about something they have no experience with.

Thats like me badmouthing your LX when I have next to no experience with it. Sure I have shot one a few times but not enough to down grade it. Such as trying a pair of pants on in the store and saying they are no good with no furthur experience with them. I can say for a fact my outfit is a quiet as feleece, no exaggration at all.

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Gotcha. Sometimes these messageboards can get you riled up! Take it easy.

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its just more little thing that might mean the difference between getting a deer and not getting a deer. I think its worth every penny. I was not winded once this year and the 9 point that i shot came from directly down wind of me. I also hunt high, rubber boots, sprays and scent wafers too. sometimes they do make you sweat so most of the time i walk into the woods and when i get about 100-200 yards from my stand, i suit up and spray down and take my time. i am starting on my second suit and i think they are worth every penny

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Scent-lok may work for the first year , two years tops! After that you have yourself an expensive set of regular camo clothing. And I do speak from experience! Dont waste your fricken money! Theres alot of excellent scent eliminating or scent cover sprays out there for roughly $5-$8 a bottle.

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alloutdoors, buckeye and everyone else who believes in this stuff. GO FOR IT. It's not my money you're spending.

This scentlock stuff is like many other things in bowhunting today. Regardless of it's real effectiveness, whether it's got any definite benefit, there are people who believe these products work. Fine! I used to have a special wrist band I absolutely had to wear when I went on the court for a basketball game. I know all about good luck charms and mojo. And that's really all we're talking about here.

But please, spare us non-believers the attitude. Just because you can't live without it doesn't mean the rest of us have to use it too.

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I have never bought any, but I can't say that I never will. I just use a little of the sent eliminator spray and then I use a plant from where I am hunting for cover, ie. sage brush, pine, juniper berries or anything else that is around. I also watch the wind.

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Let's face it, it's the revenues generated from these items that keep our sport healthy and gives us leverage as a group. The purchases made by people like us and the positive impact it has on economy is what maintains our hunting grounds, pays for our lobbies, and keeps the sport alive. In light of this, I'm not knocking anyone's choice to buy this stuff.

What makes me a bit sour is that since these ultra expensive brand name garments have hit the market, the selection on practical clothing seems to have shrunk disproportionately. Has anyone else noticed this? I was on a quest to find a nice pair of camo pants to replace the five year old Remington's I'd been wearing earlier this year. I went to Shyda's (a big local hunting clothes dealer), Cabelas (about 10 times), Gander Mountain, and a slew of bow and hunting shops to try to find a nice pair. What I found was a gross inflation caused inevitably by the eighteen brand tags on each of these garments. I literally could not find a well designed pair of pants for under 60 bucks.

Buttoned pockets, belt loops, and adjustable pants cuffs are nothing new, and it doesn't take a brand stamp or exceptional R&D to produce. My gripe is not being to find such features on anything but scent or rain clothing, both types of which were driven sky high in price by the tags.

I ended up with a pair of Natural Gear fleece pants for 30 bucks at a sports show. They leave much to be desired in terms of design, but they're warm, quiet, and kept me from having to lobby my wife and my own conscience to buy.

Anyone seen a good pair of lightweight, quiet pants for a reasonable price?

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I am starting my 48th year of Bowhunting Biggame & have never used it.
I am always aware of wind direction & do use Sex scents (Deer, Elk, hog) when hunting these animals. I do not use any other coverups.
If I am in a tree & the wind is not swerling I have no problems being only 8 feet off the ground thou mostly hunt from 12 & 15 (I use ladder stands).
On the ground I just set up according to the wind.

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I never said I cant live without it. I choose to use it becase I can not because I need it. I could get along just fine witout it just like I could get along with out ruber boots, a climber and a bowtech. Different strokes for different folks:)

You are failing to see the attitudes the non-believers have given us, you only recognize the ones that were returned back it was a 2 way street. It take two to tango, or something like that;)

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i have not bought anything with scent lok, yet.