RE: P & Y and matthews
 

Don't forget there is a possibility that the hunter was using a completely legal Mathews bow. If he was using an MQ1 or MQ32 (both of which still sold by Mathews) in 65% "Mathews" letoff he would actually be under the P&Y maximum letoff. Just some food for thought.

RE: P & Y and matthews
 

Lilhunter, going by AMO specifications, their 70% letoff bows are AMO 65%, but they go outside that specification and use hysterisis in order to make the letoff look higher. Mathews isn't the only one doing this stuff either.

Your question then is basically, why do they ignore their own industry standards so they can advertise a higher letoff?

Same reason every manufacturer in the business ignores industry standards and advertises IBO speed ratings instead of advertising speeds obtained by AMO specification.

The higher the numbers they can advertise, the more people will buy their stuff. Or so they hope. It's called marketing. Also known as stretching the truth in advertising.

Quite frankly, I think it's way past time archers started demanding more honesty and real truth in advertising from the manufacturers. AMO set their own industry specifications and I, for one, think they should base their performance advertising on those specs. Across the board.

RE: P & Y and matthews
 

Good post, Arthur P. And I also think it's about time we hold manufacturers accountable for not being able to deliver on reported IBO speeds as well.

Other than Bowtech, do you know a company which can actually deliver on its reported IBO speeds? Certainly not Mathews. I've never heard of one of their bows being able to do it...

RE: P & Y and matthews
 

exactly what I was thinking Arthur...its all about the mula!

RE: P & Y and matthews
 

Yup, all about the $$$.
I also believe Mathews realizes some shooters will go out and buy the legal cams in case they harvest a record animal. They can then change them out and claim they shot it with them. I know quite a few who have those cams just in case.

RE: P & Y and matthews
 

MQ1shooter, as far as obtaining advertised speeds, the only mathews I have ever oned was the original one cam that matt put on the market. I can not remember the speed I got from it. As far as others that I personally have owned, every HCA and Hoyt has achieved the advertised speeds.
I do agree with you, that manufacturers should not publish what they cannot produce.
One thing to remember though, not all people can set up a bow to achieve full potential. When bow manufacturers publish their speeds, they certainly are NOT talking about using brass nocksets, or big hunting peeps with rubber bands attached.

RE: P & Y and matthews
 

IL-CORFED is exactly right

RE: P & Y and matthews
 

MQ1shooter,
You should change your name if that is what you have found. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> The Matthews dealer/archery shop I frequent has found that Matthew's is in fact one of the bows that shoots thru a chronograph at the speed they advertise. And we have shot several lines of Matthews. I will add that the shop carries only 3 or 4 other brands so certainly I wouldn't speak of any other brands. Which Matthews did you shoot? I assume it was completely stripped down i.e. no silencers, no ultra nok, confirmed the arrow weight etc, etc.? Just curious.