I received by Bowhunter magazine yesterday and it had a story in it about the potential new world record whitetail. Two issues came up as I read it. First was the fact that the hunter was unable to recover the deer in what I would consider a reasonable amount of time. Secondly I had understood that all matthews bows were 70% letoff thus disqualifying them for P&Y. I recently talked to one proshop that indicated that matthews bows met P&Y because of the way matthews measures letoff. Another proshop, who sells matthews, indicated that they do not meet P&Y standards. Anyone having good knowledge on the matthews issue, please comment.

I have heard the same things you have. If Mathewes was smart, they would let people knjow....cuz to me (and others i'm sure) it's still a mystery. I am aware of the two different ways of mesuring letoff, but come on...tell us which one your using for goodness sake!

John

There are 2 different means to measure let-off. One is to measure the let-off at the backwall fully drawn,the other measures it drawn against the wall then backed off until the highest let-off is recorded in the valley. Effective,AMO,actual let-off, confused yet??? By P&Y standards the Mathews 70% is actual 65% and totally P&Y legal

Il-Cornfed is correct!
Highest let-off in valley is where you are legally. Other ? contact www.thebowman.com/cbow_matthews.html or [email protected] this is Mathews Archery & they will end the rumors! I have been a proud bowhunter since 1965. I own a Mathews "Conquest light" bow now. My wife shoots a MQ-2 Mathews. I know the folks at Mathews Archery personally and they are VERY GOOD, reputable people! They will inform you on whatever ? you may have. Yes, their bows are expensive, but like any other equipment...you pay for quality...bottom line.

Best of luck!

I am a member of P&Y and although I can't speak for them officially, from what I under stand, from the clubs stand point what IL-cornfed says is correct. However I believe this only applies to the Matthews bows that are rated at 70% let off.

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Actually any bow that measures 65% letoff at full draw(against the wall) is legal, whether its Matthews or another brand.

The percent of let off can be figured two ways, like was said above, manufactures usually list the higher numbers due to public appeal, but when actually measured by P&Y standards they are really only 63-65%

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Mathews answers this on their website.

"17.) Q: If I take a Pope and Young record-book animal with my MQ1 or MQ-32" with the 70 percent cam, will this qualify for the record books?

A: The 70-percent straightline cam does fall within their guidelines for entry into the record books and is legal in all states. AMO measures actual let-off and doesn’t calculate hysteresis. When you draw a bow and settle in to a more comfortable shooting position in the valley of the cam, you experience less holding weight at draw."


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so then why in the world does Mathews persist on calling a 65% let off bow 70%...doesnt make sense when you look at it from the outside in....other then it goes along with the 6 page ads!

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Mathews offers different cams for different let-off on some of their bows. Not all Mathews bows have 70%, my FX has 80%! A friend of mine has a 65% cam on his Ultra Max. However, the standard cams on these bows are higher let-off....usually. The individual has to know what he wants to get a lower let-off.