HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
01-01-2004 | 10:08 AM
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Typical Buck
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From: Free Union, VA
RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
I've posted on this before. I've had dogs ruin my hunt many times. I'm not going to kill a dog just because it's chasing deer. I don't have enough land to hunt much on there. I hunt some public land and some places owned by friends. If the dogs are screwing up my hunt too much I move to another location. One time this year I used the dogs. I knew they would chase the deer thru a funnel and set up an ambush on that funnel. I was rifle hunting at the time and I filed my freezer.
David
David
01-01-2004 | 10:33 AM
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Fork Horn
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From: Florence Wisconsin Florence WI
RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
My main question is how do I aproach my neighbors without sounding like an a$$hole. Shooting the dog is out of the question completely!! Even if I wanted to it is a legal matter that I wouldn't want to face. In Wisconsin it is not an individuals right to shoot a menace dog but it is to be left to the proper authoritys. Big fines if you harm another mans dog!!!
01-01-2004 | 11:01 AM
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Spike
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From: Owensboro, KY USA
RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
Dave,
Here is how I handled a problem neighbor dog...
I first approached the owner asking if he knew the dog was running loose (of course of knew). He said he would take care of it. He didn't. So I approached him again letting him know his dog was still being unruly. He was nice and said he would take care of it.
Last time I went to him with a copy of the county leash laws, explained to him that next time I would call the county attorney who would send him a warning letter for leash law violations. The next time the county attorney would send the dog pound after the dog - $60 fine to get his dog out, three times and the dog is put to sleep.
It was very tempting to just shoot the dog and put him out of his misery, since the owner didn't take care of the pet anyway. However, my lawer brother-in-law let me know I could get in some fairly decent trouble for that, IF caught.
Look up the leash laws in your county. I think just about every jurisdiction in the US has some sort of law stating that the dog cannot run loose off the owner's property.
Here is how I handled a problem neighbor dog...
I first approached the owner asking if he knew the dog was running loose (of course of knew). He said he would take care of it. He didn't. So I approached him again letting him know his dog was still being unruly. He was nice and said he would take care of it.
Last time I went to him with a copy of the county leash laws, explained to him that next time I would call the county attorney who would send him a warning letter for leash law violations. The next time the county attorney would send the dog pound after the dog - $60 fine to get his dog out, three times and the dog is put to sleep.
It was very tempting to just shoot the dog and put him out of his misery, since the owner didn't take care of the pet anyway. However, my lawer brother-in-law let me know I could get in some fairly decent trouble for that, IF caught.
Look up the leash laws in your county. I think just about every jurisdiction in the US has some sort of law stating that the dog cannot run loose off the owner's property.
01-01-2004 | 11:30 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
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01-01-2004 | 11:54 AM
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RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
Some people become so obsessed with personal pursuits, they tend to lose all common sense and lose touch with reality …or have never had both oars in the water in the first place.
It is bad enough that for that sake of shooting a #$%& deer, there are hunters that will shoot a domestic dog that is simply reacting to an instinctive stimulus, and has not been taught otherwise by its owner. It is beyond the definition of sickening that a person would shoot their (own) dog that simply followed him to his (hunter) stand. The dog may have (just) wanted to be with his/her master.
How is it that the dog was loose to follow him to his stand? How is it that the dog was not trained not to follow when the dog should not? If the incident was the first time the dog followed him, then the person's act is even more disgusting. If not the first time, and/or the person knew that the dog might follow him but did nothing to prevent it, the person' s act of killing his dog is beyond comprehension and the appropriate words to describe this person and his actions do not yet exist.
Years ago, my brother and I accompanied an "obsessed" coon hunter on a hunt. Along with two trained and experienced coonhounds, he was taking a 6-month old coonhound on his first hunt. During the hunt, the young hound (obviously) did not know what to do or what he was supposed to do. The dog stayed at the owner's heels. This was infuriating the guy. He kept kicking the dog and throwing the dog up the trail. Eventually, the dog became very scared and was totally confused. My brother and I asked the guy to ease up on the young dog. He commenced to tell us, in so many words, to stay out of his business. A few minutes later, he became uncontrollably infuriated with the young dog and unloaded a .22 revolver into the dog's skull.
I wonder if this person who shot his own dog for following his (person) trail to his stand, and any other person that has the same size of brain, has children that have not been taught right from wrong. Would this/these imbecile(s) also kill their child if the child does something he or she did not know was wrong because the child had not been taught otherwise …or was allowed to run loose?
Unless the animal is unecessarily vicious, do not hold a domesticated animal responsible for it actions; hold the owner responsible.
It is bad enough that for that sake of shooting a #$%& deer, there are hunters that will shoot a domestic dog that is simply reacting to an instinctive stimulus, and has not been taught otherwise by its owner. It is beyond the definition of sickening that a person would shoot their (own) dog that simply followed him to his (hunter) stand. The dog may have (just) wanted to be with his/her master.
How is it that the dog was loose to follow him to his stand? How is it that the dog was not trained not to follow when the dog should not? If the incident was the first time the dog followed him, then the person's act is even more disgusting. If not the first time, and/or the person knew that the dog might follow him but did nothing to prevent it, the person' s act of killing his dog is beyond comprehension and the appropriate words to describe this person and his actions do not yet exist.
Years ago, my brother and I accompanied an "obsessed" coon hunter on a hunt. Along with two trained and experienced coonhounds, he was taking a 6-month old coonhound on his first hunt. During the hunt, the young hound (obviously) did not know what to do or what he was supposed to do. The dog stayed at the owner's heels. This was infuriating the guy. He kept kicking the dog and throwing the dog up the trail. Eventually, the dog became very scared and was totally confused. My brother and I asked the guy to ease up on the young dog. He commenced to tell us, in so many words, to stay out of his business. A few minutes later, he became uncontrollably infuriated with the young dog and unloaded a .22 revolver into the dog's skull.
I wonder if this person who shot his own dog for following his (person) trail to his stand, and any other person that has the same size of brain, has children that have not been taught right from wrong. Would this/these imbecile(s) also kill their child if the child does something he or she did not know was wrong because the child had not been taught otherwise …or was allowed to run loose?
Unless the animal is unecessarily vicious, do not hold a domesticated animal responsible for it actions; hold the owner responsible.
01-01-2004 | 12:42 PM
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RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
ORIGINAL: mdbohuntr
I guess you mean the game warden. I Don't beleive that would come the mouth of any self respecting gamewarden for a moment. Just glad I don't have that type where I hunt, If I did I sure as hell would be reporting him.
But when the game wordon tells you to ?????????
This is so funny.Mdbohuntr, get a "Hooked on Phonics" before you try to correct someone else on spelling, grammar, etc.
Just so you know, you shouldn't capitalize the "d" in "Don't", "i before e except after c", you need a prepositional phrase between the words "come" and "the", such as "out of",or atleast a preposition like"from"following the word "come" would be sufficient, "self respecting should be hyphenated,i.e. "self-respecting", "gamewarden" is two words and need not be ran together, and your comma after the word "hunt" should be a period instead.
And by the way, our kids are reading this and don't need to see the "H-E-Double-hockey-sticks" word, right??
I give you a "D-" in spelling,grammar,and mechanics.
I give you a solid "F" in correcting someone else.
I give you an "A+" in humor!
On the dog. It is true that the dog probably does not know any better. It would be wrong to blatantly shoot that dog "just because". First, find the owner and have a civil discussion. When he or she sees that you put a lot of time into what you do, they'll surely understand and want to help. He/She may not even know their dog is chasing deer, so give them the benefit of the doubt as well as the chance to be a good person and do what's right. You may be surprised to find a caring , respectable person who just didn't realize what is happening.
If that fails, look into what legal recourses exist that can help you resolve the problem. In many cases there are ways to legally resolve these problems.
If you have tried all other avenues, then maybe you can catch the dog and take him to an animal shelter far away or something, who knows.
Good luck!!
01-01-2004 | 12:44 PM
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RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
ORIGINAL: c903
Some people become so obsessed with personal pursuits, they tend to lose all common sense and lose touch with reality …or have never had both oars in the water in the first place.
It is bad enough that for that sake of shooting a #$%& deer, there are hunters that will shoot a domestic dog that is simply reacting to an instinctive stimulus, and has not been taught otherwise by its owner. It is beyond the definition of sickening that a person would shoot their (own) dog that simply followed him to his (hunter) stand. The dog may have (just) wanted to be with his/her master.
How is it that the dog was loose to follow him to his stand? How is it that the dog was not trained not to follow when the dog should not? If the incident was the first time the dog followed him, then the person's act is even more disgusting. If not the first time, and/or the person knew that the dog might follow him but did nothing to prevent it, the person' s act of killing his dog is beyond comprehension and the appropriate words to describe this person and his actions do not yet exist.
Years ago, my brother and I accompanied an "obsessed" coon hunter on a hunt. Along with two trained and experienced coonhounds, he was taking a 6-month old coonhound on his first hunt. During the hunt, the young hound (obviously) did not know what to do or what he was supposed to do. The dog stayed at the owner's heels. This was infuriating the guy. He kept kicking the dog and throwing the dog up the trail. Eventually, the dog became very scared and was totally confused. My brother and I asked the guy to ease up on the young dog. He commenced to tell us, in so many words, to stay out of his business. A few minutes later, he became uncontrollably infuriated with the young dog and unloaded a .22 revolver into the dog's skull.
I wonder if this person who shot his own dog for following his (person) trail to his stand, and any other person that has the same size of brain, has children that have not been taught right from wrong. Would this/these imbecile(s) also kill their child if the child does something he or she did not know was wrong because the child had not been taught otherwise …or was allowed to run loose?
Unless the animal is unecessarily vicious, do not hold a domesticated animal responsible for it actions; hold the owner responsible.
Some people become so obsessed with personal pursuits, they tend to lose all common sense and lose touch with reality …or have never had both oars in the water in the first place.
It is bad enough that for that sake of shooting a #$%& deer, there are hunters that will shoot a domestic dog that is simply reacting to an instinctive stimulus, and has not been taught otherwise by its owner. It is beyond the definition of sickening that a person would shoot their (own) dog that simply followed him to his (hunter) stand. The dog may have (just) wanted to be with his/her master.
How is it that the dog was loose to follow him to his stand? How is it that the dog was not trained not to follow when the dog should not? If the incident was the first time the dog followed him, then the person's act is even more disgusting. If not the first time, and/or the person knew that the dog might follow him but did nothing to prevent it, the person' s act of killing his dog is beyond comprehension and the appropriate words to describe this person and his actions do not yet exist.
Years ago, my brother and I accompanied an "obsessed" coon hunter on a hunt. Along with two trained and experienced coonhounds, he was taking a 6-month old coonhound on his first hunt. During the hunt, the young hound (obviously) did not know what to do or what he was supposed to do. The dog stayed at the owner's heels. This was infuriating the guy. He kept kicking the dog and throwing the dog up the trail. Eventually, the dog became very scared and was totally confused. My brother and I asked the guy to ease up on the young dog. He commenced to tell us, in so many words, to stay out of his business. A few minutes later, he became uncontrollably infuriated with the young dog and unloaded a .22 revolver into the dog's skull.
I wonder if this person who shot his own dog for following his (person) trail to his stand, and any other person that has the same size of brain, has children that have not been taught right from wrong. Would this/these imbecile(s) also kill their child if the child does something he or she did not know was wrong because the child had not been taught otherwise …or was allowed to run loose?
Unless the animal is unecessarily vicious, do not hold a domesticated animal responsible for it actions; hold the owner responsible.
01-01-2004 | 12:58 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
Ask a farmer what 'reality' and 'common sense' are all about when he's got 'pets' running loose on his property, chasing game animals and livestock, killing his chickens and such. C903, I'm afraid your version of reality and common sense is a little too citified.
The guy that shot the pup... That's animal abuse and he needed to have his day in court for it. Someone that lets his anger get that out of hand at an animal could easily wind up doing the same to a person some day.
Killing a deer-chasing dog though... one that would just as soon be chasing cows or sheep... That's predator control. You want to be neighborly and give the owners a chance to take control, that's fine and admirable. But I've never seen too many second chances given out around this neck of the woods.
The guy that shot the pup... That's animal abuse and he needed to have his day in court for it. Someone that lets his anger get that out of hand at an animal could easily wind up doing the same to a person some day.
Killing a deer-chasing dog though... one that would just as soon be chasing cows or sheep... That's predator control. You want to be neighborly and give the owners a chance to take control, that's fine and admirable. But I've never seen too many second chances given out around this neck of the woods.
01-01-2004 | 01:30 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Harford Co Maryland USA
RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
I've had hunts ruined by dogs on different farms on the same day. My neighbor's dogs are the worst. They "patrol" my property every morning and afternoon at prime time and I've seen them run deer. Most of the deer on those parts move before light and then again, only after dark.
I've told them repeatedly about it and they reluctantly said they would control it, but never have. If I push it, I could lose permission to hunt an adjacent area they own that almost always holds deer.
Never would shoot the dogs, but I've been very tempted.
I've told them repeatedly about it and they reluctantly said they would control it, but never have. If I push it, I could lose permission to hunt an adjacent area they own that almost always holds deer.
Never would shoot the dogs, but I've been very tempted.
01-01-2004 | 01:33 PM
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RE: HUNT RUINED BY DOG!!!
I have a friend that shot his own dog this year because it followed him to his treestand. If he can shoot his own dog, surely you can shoot somebody elses. If it causes that much of a problem, I would not have any trouble shooting it.