What is right with hunting shows?
#1
What is right with hunting shows?
I am new to this forum so let me set a couple things right. I am not and anti fishing, I am a school teacher and out door writer. Spell check is my best friend so don' t be proud if you find 1 million mistakes.
I live here in Maine and own a small up start video production company. We are a couple of guys that have regular jobs and try to put out a couple films a year. We guide here in maine for bear and turkey and travel for deer and everything else. We do not have the budget to go on high end hunts and most often hunt with regular people that know thier area like we know ours.
My point is I read the post about all the things wrong with hunting shows. I read all the angry ones and the response from the videographer. I undestand the need to cover costs. We are pumped when we pick up a new sponsor, it helps us travel . I did however see what is turning people off and and will try to use this kowlege.
All that said, what do people like in a hunting video or tv show? my e-mail is [email protected] or www.outdooradventurecompany.com
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chris cobbett
I live here in Maine and own a small up start video production company. We are a couple of guys that have regular jobs and try to put out a couple films a year. We guide here in maine for bear and turkey and travel for deer and everything else. We do not have the budget to go on high end hunts and most often hunt with regular people that know thier area like we know ours.
My point is I read the post about all the things wrong with hunting shows. I read all the angry ones and the response from the videographer. I undestand the need to cover costs. We are pumped when we pick up a new sponsor, it helps us travel . I did however see what is turning people off and and will try to use this kowlege.
All that said, what do people like in a hunting video or tv show? my e-mail is [email protected] or www.outdooradventurecompany.com
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chris cobbett
#2
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 4,668
RE: What is right with hunting shows?
Realtree Roadtrips is about as perfect as a hunting show can get.
The guys are great and you get to see a lot of footage of the guys just " being guys" .......eating at camp, telling stories, missing deer, frezzing their butts off, sleepy as can be at 4 am, having fun and hunting hard. That show is about as close to perfect as I can imagine.
Not to mention that they have PLENTY of money but it is not uncommon to see them packed in a couple room cabin, eating fast food or camp stew or wahtever is available.
It' s nice to see a guy with as much money as Bill Jordan has not sitting in a multimillion dollar lodge eating surf and turf while watching a plasma TV knowing he will kill a 180 class buck out of a heated shed the next morning.
Even though he could be
It just looks like real hunting............not whacking fenced in monsters.
The guys are great and you get to see a lot of footage of the guys just " being guys" .......eating at camp, telling stories, missing deer, frezzing their butts off, sleepy as can be at 4 am, having fun and hunting hard. That show is about as close to perfect as I can imagine.
Not to mention that they have PLENTY of money but it is not uncommon to see them packed in a couple room cabin, eating fast food or camp stew or wahtever is available.
It' s nice to see a guy with as much money as Bill Jordan has not sitting in a multimillion dollar lodge eating surf and turf while watching a plasma TV knowing he will kill a 180 class buck out of a heated shed the next morning.
Even though he could be
It just looks like real hunting............not whacking fenced in monsters.
#3
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fort Wayne Indiana USA
Posts: 71
RE: What is right with hunting shows?
Personally I am so tired of people trying to, ahhhhh shall we say, sneak in sponsorship/advertisement spots. Anyone with half a brain can tell its hype. What I mean is...if someone sponsors you and you want to highlight thier product, just be honest about it.
Hey XYZ company provided this cool gadget for us on this hunt and it worked really well. OR We would like to thank XYZ for providing all the BLANK you seen today, you may enjoy using their products on your next hunt? bla bla bla.
I am not saying you have to point out every short coming of the product but I wish people would stop thinking of themselves as emmy winning actors. lol I have worked in Sales, Marketing, etc and every time I see this I think how I wouldn' t want my company pimped like that. Just IMHO.
hunt3r
Hey XYZ company provided this cool gadget for us on this hunt and it worked really well. OR We would like to thank XYZ for providing all the BLANK you seen today, you may enjoy using their products on your next hunt? bla bla bla.
I am not saying you have to point out every short coming of the product but I wish people would stop thinking of themselves as emmy winning actors. lol I have worked in Sales, Marketing, etc and every time I see this I think how I wouldn' t want my company pimped like that. Just IMHO.
hunt3r
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Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blossvale, New York
Posts: 21,199
RE: What is right with hunting shows?
I haven' t seen one of the shows with me in it.[:' (] That' s the wrong.[:-]
What' s right???? Well, there' s alot that' s right. I think what people are saying when they find fault is they want to see more realistic hunts of the everyday garder variety. I watched a hunt the other day where the guy watched 100 deer and then shot one of the 25 bucks that were in the field. These preserve, private party affairs aren' t hunting as the world knows it. It' s just that NOW we' ve watched so many JUMBO monsters fall that probably anything less and we' d find fault with the quality of the animal they shot.
It' s entertainment. We all watch it and inspite of our rejections we tune in week after week. I think we should start having some REALISTIC tracking scents or complete track jobs where we find the deer and the camera man is not standing 20 yards the other side of the deer waiting for the guy to look surprised. Lets see a guy find the deer and really be surprised for a change.
In short... we like the entertainment value but detest the canned-ness of it all. I' ve seen enough shooting houses, enept women bowhunters who can' t draw the thing etc etc etc. REAL HUNTS would be nice for a change. I' d rather them leave out all the danged commercialism in the videos and charge me a few more bucks for the tape. The last thing I need to see is Tom Miranda or Matt Morette make one more mock scrape.
What' s right???? Well, there' s alot that' s right. I think what people are saying when they find fault is they want to see more realistic hunts of the everyday garder variety. I watched a hunt the other day where the guy watched 100 deer and then shot one of the 25 bucks that were in the field. These preserve, private party affairs aren' t hunting as the world knows it. It' s just that NOW we' ve watched so many JUMBO monsters fall that probably anything less and we' d find fault with the quality of the animal they shot.
It' s entertainment. We all watch it and inspite of our rejections we tune in week after week. I think we should start having some REALISTIC tracking scents or complete track jobs where we find the deer and the camera man is not standing 20 yards the other side of the deer waiting for the guy to look surprised. Lets see a guy find the deer and really be surprised for a change.
In short... we like the entertainment value but detest the canned-ness of it all. I' ve seen enough shooting houses, enept women bowhunters who can' t draw the thing etc etc etc. REAL HUNTS would be nice for a change. I' d rather them leave out all the danged commercialism in the videos and charge me a few more bucks for the tape. The last thing I need to see is Tom Miranda or Matt Morette make one more mock scrape.
#7
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bunker Hill IL USA
Posts: 188
RE: What is right with hunting shows?
The last Buckmasters that I watched showed Jackie being led to the deer. When the buck ran off, the guide said lets go over here to cut him off. Then they saw the buck, and Jackie asked the guide to range it for him. I don' t believe this is hunting, unless the hunter has some kind of handycap and is unable to do the leg work. I watched some Impact Productions videos, and they were really good. They showed missed shots, bucks that get called in but no shots available, and take bucks of all age ( even does).To me that is the real thing. It is one thing to have someone tell you where the free ranging wild deer are, another to have a guide walk you all the way thru the hunt.
#8
RE: What is right with hunting shows?
I think the best footage I have ever seen was Bill Jordan and the " Barbed Wire Buck" . It showed that these guys may have money galore, and are put on the deer by guides, but they are not perfect and not many hunts turn out perfect.
I want to see hunts that we are all familiar with.
-Getting busted by a doe.
-Dropping your flashlight out of the tree.
-Not getting the right angled shot and passing it up.
-Can we say, real sized deer? Not Monster Bucks.
- We all like seeing the big ones, but come on, there not everywhere.
I want to see hunts that we are all familiar with.
-Getting busted by a doe.
-Dropping your flashlight out of the tree.
-Not getting the right angled shot and passing it up.
-Can we say, real sized deer? Not Monster Bucks.
- We all like seeing the big ones, but come on, there not everywhere.
#9
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: What is right with hunting shows?
If you want to see what' s ' right' in hunting shows, get a box full of old Fred Bear shorts and watch them. There are quite a few that have been transferred to video. Camera work is crude compared to what we' re used to today, maybe the voice over is kinda corney sometimes, but that is HUNTING.
#10
RE: What is right with hunting shows?
I' ve always appreciated the kind of shows that I can relate to. Shows that capture the story and not just the kill. I saw a show this past week where the bowhunter passed on a beautiful shot at a monster buck because the camera man couldn' t get an angle through the brush to videotape the shot. Heck, might as well place yard markers that tell the deer to smile for the camera. Shows like Primos' TRUTH, Team Fitzgerald Outdoors and RealTree Roadtrips are among my favorites. I do think they would be better if they didn' t plug their sponsors so much but at the same time I understand that those sponsors are the ones that make the shows possible.