reepers or rage
#11
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
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You used the GrimReapers Razor Cut? They use the same Trocar tip as Muzzy. My bow is by far from poorly tuned!!! I have a rep for Mathews do all of my bow tuning and I shoot a Mathews Q2. Not the newest, but it has killed everything I have connected with!! Bullet holes with broadhead at 10 feet. I don't feel that is poorly tuned!! All my arrows weigh from 407grn to 410grns with 100 grn broadhead and add Luma-nock add 21 grns to each. Thats gives me a 78 lbs of energy from a 65# draw weight on a 29-1/2" draw length.
Last edited by burniegoeasily; 12-14-2010 at 08:56 AM.
#12
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
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Not necessarily. I have had grim reapers deflect on a quarter away shot on a 150lb hog. Which is the shot you want to take on big hogs due to their shield, thick skin, and fat. But since this was a small hog, there was not an issue with the shield. Deflections are not uncommon with mechanicals.
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Not necessarily. I have had grim reapers deflect on a quarter away shot on a 150lb hog. Which is the shot you want to take on big hogs due to their shield, thick skin, and fat. But since this was a small hog, there was not an issue with the shield. Deflections are not uncommon with mechanicals.
Most problems associated with Grim Reapers...any mechanicals really.....are the fault of the nut behind the bow. Mechanicals just provide an easy scape goat.
#14
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Deflections might not be uncommon with mechanicals (I would dispute that), but they are extremely uncommon with Grim Reapers due to their design.
Most problems associated with Grim Reapers...any mechanicals really.....are the fault of the nut behind the bow. Mechanicals just provide an easy scape goat.
Most problems associated with Grim Reapers...any mechanicals really.....are the fault of the nut behind the bow. Mechanicals just provide an easy scape goat.
Nice, because I have seen it twice on hogs. And I assure you, I know exactly what I am doing. been at this game since the 70s.
#15
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 50
Thanks for the input guys. I am nut behind the bow. The shot that didnt penetrate was a slight quartering shot. So what everyone is say makes sense. I picked up a pack of Grim Reaper Razortips. Cant wait to try them. Thanks again!
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2010
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LOst my first deer with a bow due to grim reapers. The arrow deflected on the deer causing no penetration. Switched to slick tricks and killed another doe. Than i went to the rage and killed my second biggest buck this year. The hole was big enough to put my fist into it. Sorry but i would never shot an over the top expandable. To much risk in doing so.
I feel that you may have shot that animal at an angle much more than you should have or just plain missed the shot and slapped it with the shaft as it passed. Thus blaming it on the BH, being your first bow shot animal. GR's were designed to not deflect unless shot at angle that would not allow penetration regardless of what you were using unless it was powder driven. I have shot them at angles on deer just to test this and have not been dissatisfied as of yet.
I am not by any means saying that you are wrong with your decisions of what works for you or not, I am just saying that I go far above and beyond to ensure that ANY anilmal I shoot at is taken in the most humane way I can possibly do so. And I am saying that with over 37 animals with the same type of broadhead and no losses is nothing to sneeze at and no track job over 125yds. Besides, what other bow manufactor besides Mathews has the faith to put their name on a BH?
To jwsfitter, you will not be disappointed!!!!!!!!
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#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Yes, you are a nut behind the bow. Be easy though, its not derogatory, its just an expression. Meaning that the person behind the bow is usually to blame.
I don't care if you know what you are doing or not, and I don't care how long you have been doing it. You are human (assumption), and therefore you make mistakes. It happens to all of us. Some people take responsibility for their actions, some people blame their equipment.
#18
Yes, you are a nut behind the bow. Be easy though, its not derogatory, its just an expression. Meaning that the person behind the bow is usually to blame.
I don't care if you know what you are doing or not, and I don't care how long you have been doing it. You are human (assumption), and therefore you make mistakes. It happens to all of us. Some people take responsibility for their actions, some people blame their equipment.
I don't care if you know what you are doing or not, and I don't care how long you have been doing it. You are human (assumption), and therefore you make mistakes. It happens to all of us. Some people take responsibility for their actions, some people blame their equipment.
Grim Reapers are a devastating broadhead. They're extremely durable and if assembled and mounted correctly they're practically idiot-proof. I shot them for three years and had excellent results with one exception - absolutely lousy blood trails. I made some perfect shots, some great shots and some mediocre shots and not a single one of the 13 deer I killed with them left a decent blood trail. All of the shots were pass-throughs with the arrow sticking in the dirt, so I had an exit wound.
Compared to the Slick Tricks I switched to, the Grim Reapers come out of the package as dull as a butter knife. In my opinion, if Grim Reaper made their blades as sharp as Slick Trick does, they would have a perfect broadhead.
#19
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
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Yes, you are a nut behind the bow. Be easy though, its not derogatory, its just an expression. Meaning that the person behind the bow is usually to blame.
I don't care if you know what you are doing or not, and I don't care how long you have been doing it. You are human (assumption), and therefore you make mistakes. It happens to all of us. Some people take responsibility for their actions, some people blame their equipment.
I don't care if you know what you are doing or not, and I don't care how long you have been doing it. You are human (assumption), and therefore you make mistakes. It happens to all of us. Some people take responsibility for their actions, some people blame their equipment.
Not looking to get in a pissing contest, just pointing out my experience. Discount it all you want, no big deal. Just putting out what mine, and others testing have shown. Not trying to persuade anyone either way, just adding some input. I could care less. I make all my own bows and arrows. I have no need for mechanicals due to the fact I do not hunt with a compound. I do shot one from time to time, and do test products for different people and put in my two cents. They send heads, shafts ect. ect. and I see how I like them. Nothing more, nothing less.
#20
Nontypical Buck
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