I shoot of my poarch approx. 15 feet high and most my stands are 20-25 feet high on uneaven ground and I am DEAD ON. So to answer your question, yes like a Keller. Hey Toytaco, I did not think you could use a No Peep with a pendulum. It really works good for ya?

Had a keller, great site, harvested many deer, but too noisey, dogmeat convinced me to get a Qc Ranger by savage. Best site I' ve used from the ground or above.

Droptines, the Preditor' s instructions state that if you sight in at 15 feet high you can then go to any height, even above 25 feet. If you go to a shorter stand, say 10 feet, you will be dead-on at 15 to 30 yards but you may be slightly high at 8 - 12 yards if you use a very slow bow, (less than 210 FTS) . You must check this out. I don' t really understand the geometry of how all this works, but Maccjo' s experience indicates that it does work.

Maccjo, all I can say is that the " No Peep" is the single best accessory I' ve added to my bow. It works great with the Predator Pendalum or the fixed pin set-up. In fact its better because you no longer have to align the " glow gaurd" ring on the Predator inside your peep sight. All you have to do is align the circles on the " No Peep" and your good to go. " No Peep" liturature says that it will actaully improve your form and shooting with a pendalum sight. I believe it because you will never be able to align your " No Peep" and sights with your target if you do not bend at the waist properly or vary from your standard anchor point. This is going to be great during early and late minutes on the stand when its almost impossible from me to see though my standard peep sight (my eyes are getting to old I guess). Needless to say I love it.

The Pred.IV sounds like a real good tree stand sight !!.I think I might have to take a closer look .[]