I wish you lived closer c903 Id luv to prove you wrong. Have you ever miss a deer?

bulshi

1. If you have your " swinger" calibrated for ground to bow level height of 20 ft, and at a distance of 40 yards for POA, a deer is standing twenty-five yards away on a ground level that puts the deer at half or almost at your level, are you going to hit your point of aim?
2. If your sight is calibrated as stated above, and a deer comes by on a 45 degree slope, 15 yards down the slope, are you going to hit your point POA?
3. In reverse, put the deer on a slope 15 yards out and 20 ft above you. Are you going to hit your POA?

I have never missed a deer in my 39 years.. I have had deer move before the arrow struck, but I have never missed one.

I have some time to burn. Put some good cash in the pot, let me set up the shot (decoy), and I might consider paying my own travel expense.....if the money is good.

I am glad you like your pendulum sight, bullsi. If it works for you, thats great.

Personally, I don`t want anything moving around on my bow for starters. Plus, I C903 is correct about having to set them up for a certain height. I have had guys tell me how great they are, but the shooting exibition was never overly impressive.

If you have any cash left over when C903 gets done with you, let me know.

Do not misunderstand. I am not saying that no pivotal is accurate and does not perform as it is designed to do, under any conditions; that they are worthless. Goods pivotals can do the job quite well as long as they are used in the limited parameters that are governed by their design, by the bow and gear, and by physics.

In fact; for those shooters that just cannot estimate yardage, have vision problems -especially depth perception difficulty, I would recommend they use a good pivotal, but also realize that they (pivotal sights) are not a panacea, that there are limitations, and that the user cannot just aim and shoot without considering any of the shooting aspects that pin shooters must.